dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) (01/12/91)
We're looking to obtain a new PS/2 machine to easily handle builds of
large source-code trees on the PS/2, and the new 486 models,
the 90 and 95, immediately came to mind. However, the person
who was trying to order this was flummoxed by the person from
IBM who couldn't clearly say whether or not these machines ran
AIX PS/2 1.2. The comment was "it runs, but it's not supported".
Whatever that means.
Can anyone inside Locus or IBM state something more plainly on
the ability to run vanilla AIX PS/2 1.2 with the latest patches
these configurations?
Thanks
--
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
dyer@arktouros.mit.edu, dyer@hstbme.mit.edujackv@turnkey.tcc.com (Jack F. Vogel) (01/12/91)
In article <5945@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes: >We're looking to obtain a new PS/2 machine to easily handle builds of >large source-code trees on the PS/2, and the new 486 models, >the 90 and 95, immediately came to mind. However, the person >who was trying to order this was flummoxed by the person from >IBM who couldn't clearly say whether or not these machines ran >AIX PS/2 1.2. The comment was "it runs, but it's not supported". >Whatever that means. Hmmm!?@ Was this person "from IBM" the regular AIX support person or the hardware types or what (I don't know what different IBM contacts one might talk with)?? I mean it would be damn silly for IBM to have an operating system for "the" PS/2 and then bring out new "PS/2"'s that didn't run it, don't you think?!? Well, of course one has to take into account that there are PS/2's that are 286-based that won't but, taking that into account.... >Can anyone inside Locus or IBM state something more plainly on >the ability to run vanilla AIX PS/2 1.2 with the latest patches >these configurations? Naturally, I don't speak with the official authority of IBM but yes, we have some number of the 486 machines around the building. One of the systems on our regular development cluster is either a 90 or 95 and as far as I know it runs the same stock kernel as the rest of the cluster. I also know that the Locus marketing types have been busy setting up a 95 running AIX as some sort of demo system. Now, all of this being said I should reiterate that I certainly don't make IBM policy and if you run into a problem and tell the support contact "Oh, this is running on a model 95" I don't have the official stance on what their response is supposed to be, its just that I would be surprised if they would not support it. I would try to get an official word from NSD just so you can sleep well at night :-}. Good luck, Steve Disclaimer: What, after all that hand-washing above you think I still need a disclaimer :-} :-}. -- Jack F. Vogel jackv@locus.com AIX370 Technical Support - or - Locus Computing Corp. jackv@turnkey.TCC.COM
richp@romulus.la.locus.com (Richard L. Pettit Jr.) (01/14/91)
In article <5945@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes: >We're looking to obtain a new PS/2 machine to easily handle builds of >large source-code trees on the PS/2, and the new 486 models, >the 90 and 95, immediately came to mind. However, the person > >Can anyone inside Locus or IBM state something more plainly on >the ability to run vanilla AIX PS/2 1.2 with the latest patches >these configurations? As the mouthpiece of either organization ? No. As me ? I've seen AIX running on 3 different '486 based systems. Not only works fine but goes like stink too. I foresee (nor have I seen) any compatibility problems. If IBM gives you the run around, jump all over them like a fungus. Rich ---- Richard Pettit Locus Computing Corp. richp@locus.com "Opinions expressed herein are of the author, not (LCC or IBM)"
shwake@raysnec.UUCP (Ray Shwake) (01/16/91)
jackv@turnkey.tcc.com (Jack F. Vogel) writes: >Hmmm!?@ Was this person "from IBM" the regular AIX support person or the >hardware types or what (I don't know what different IBM contacts one might >talk with)?? I mean it would be damn silly for IBM to have an operating >system for "the" PS/2 and then bring out new "PS/2"'s that didn't run it, >don't you think?!? Well, of course one has to take into account that there >are PS/2's that are 286-based that won't but, taking that into account.... Not *necessarily* strange if there's something different about the new line. Apple analogously introduced the IIsi, which is ostensibly A/UX- capable, but can't run A/UX 2.0. It will, reportedly, run the upcoming 2.0.1.
shair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Bob Shair) (01/16/91)
In article <5945@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes: > >Can anyone inside Locus or IBM state something more plainly on >the ability to run vanilla AIX PS/2 1.2 with the latest patches >these configurations? AIX PS/2 is not currently supported on the PS/2 models P75, 90 and 95. We intend to provide such support in the future. I enclose excerpts from two IBM announcement letters which clarify this. I can shed no light on whether there are any configurations of these models on which AIX PS/2 will, in fact, run. It is not supported. Bob Shair Scientific Computing Specialist IBM Champaign (U of Ill) =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= NUMBER 190-176 DATE 901030 TYPE Product TITLE IBM PERSONAL SYSTEM/2 MODEL 90 XP 486 (8590-0J5, -0J9 AND -0KD) ABSTRACT The Personal System/2 (R) (PS/2 (R)) Model 90 XP 486 is a family of powerful and expandable desktop systems based on IBM's Micro Channel (R) architecture and 32-bit 80486 processors. < hundreds of lines of information deleted > STATEMENTS OF DIRECTION v IBM intends to support the following: | o An architected family of upgradeable processor enhancements for | the PS/2 Model 90 XP 486. | o 8MB Single In-Line Memory Modules (SIMMs) as an optional feature | for the PS/2 Model 90 XP 486 systems. When these memory modules | are available, the PS/2 Model 90 XP 486 systems will support up | to 64MB of memory on the system board. | o 32-bit version of OS/2 that will support the full memory | capability of the PS/2 Model 90 XP 486. ==>o PS/2 Model 90 XP 486 with the AIX (R) PS/2 operating system. o Busmaster Token-Ring and Ethernet Local Area Network (LAN) adapters to enhance performance of PS/2 Model 90 XP 486 systems in LAN server environments. o PS/2 Model 90 XP 486 with the IBM 4680 Operating System Version 2 (5601-192) and Version 3 (5621-074). o OS/2 support for the Audio Visual Connection (R) with the Extended Graphics Array (XGA) at 640 x 480 resolution with 256 colors. =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= =-= NUMBER 290-817 DATE 901218 TYPE Programming TITLE INTEL OS/2 AND AIX I860 SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT TOOLS FOR C AND FORTRAN ABSTRACT Today, IBM announces C and FORTRAN compiler support for the PS/2 (R) Wizard Adapter running under both AIX (R) PS/2 and OS/2 (R) operating systems. < hundreds of lines of information deleted > TECHINFO TECHNICAL INFORMATION SPECIFIED OPERATING ENVIRONMENT v MACHINE REQUIREMENTS: | o The Intel OS/2 and AIX i860 Software Development Tools for C and | FORTRAN require one of the following PS/2 system units: | - PS/2 Model 70 | - PS/2 Model P75* | - PS/2 Model 80 | - PS/2 Model 90 XP* | - PS/2 Model 95 XP* | The Model P70 is not supported. ====> * These models are not currently supported by AIX PS/2. Therefore, the PS/2 Wizard Adapter will operate only with IBM OS/2 on these models. -- Bob Shair shair@chgvmic1.iinus1.ibm.com Scientific Computing Specialist SHAIR@UIUCVMD (bitnet) IBM Champaign