[comp.unix.aix] cannot use ksh

rahmeh@cerc.utexas.edu (Joe Rahmeh) (03/15/91)

If the user home directory is on an NFS filesystem (mounted from a SUN)
the the K shell will not work:
	- it hangs the console when the user logs in
	- it cannot be killed from another terminal
	- you have to hit the yellow button

Is there a workaround?

Thanks
Joe Rahmeh (rahmeh@cerc.utexas.edu)

john@johnmad.austin.ibm.com (03/15/91)

>If the user home directory is on an NFS filesystem (mounted from a SUN)
> - it hangs the console when the user logs in
> - it cannot be killed from another terminal
> - you have to hit the yellow button

This is, unfortunatly a common problem. Probably you are not running 
statd and lockd on the SUN, or there is some config problem that is 
keeping network locks from working between them. The ksh attempts a
lock on the history file, and since most users keep the hist file in
/u somewhere, that is an over the wire lock request. If it cannot
complete the request, then you get the hang.

>Is there a workaround?
 
Yep, IMHO the best one is to keep your history files local on the machine
you are logging into. This not only avoids locking problems, but is a
great performance enhancement.  You not only avoid the network locking,
but are not continually reading and writing the darn hist file over the
network all day. Another fix is forthcoming from IBM, by turning off
the hist file locking. The fix is in 3003 or there abouts. 


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rudy@chukran.austin.ibm.com (03/15/91)

> If the user home directory is on an NFS filesystem (mounted from a SUN)
> the the K shell will not work:
> 	- it hangs the console when the user logs in
> 	- it cannot be killed from another terminal
> 	- you have to hit the yellow button
Most likely cause is that the server is not running the NFS lock manager.
For some strange reason, ksh tries to lock the history file.  If the
server lock manager is not running, the client hangs.

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scl@sasha.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steve Losen) (03/18/91)

There is a bug in the SunOS NFS file locking code.  This is fixed in 4.1.1
and there is a patch for 4.1 (and perhaps 4.0.3).  The patch includes a
new lockd and some new .o files for the kernel, which you must rebuild. 
Call up Sun and ask about it.  You can work around the bug by being
sure your ksh process on a RS/6000 does not put its history file on
a sun.

By the way, this bug also prevents pcnfs from working.

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