[connect.audit] Comments on 269n wanted...

hdrw@ibmpcug.co.uk (Howard Winter) (02/28/91)

I have an ST 296n - although your posting said 269,  I believe that's the one
you mean, since the the '96' indicates 96Mb unformatted ('2' means 5 1/4" 
half-height) and it formats to 84Mb.  I am using it with the Seagate ST01
controller card, which is an 8-bit card.  The drive comes with software 
installed on it, which needs to be copied onto diskettes, and the drive is
then formatted and the software reloaded.  
I had no problems with the installation, but the formatting process does 
not allow the interleave factor to be changed.  It is set to 3:1 by the
software giving a transfer rate of 310K bytes/second.  I believe that
the 8-bit controller would not be able to handle 2:1 or 1:1 interleave.

Coretest gives performance figures: Average seek time 31.5mS, track-to-
track seek: 10.8mS.  Data transfer 310Kb/Sec, Performance factor 3.5 XT.

I have heard this drive described as 'famously brain-damaged' and that
it cannot be formatted at 1:1 interleave.  I understand this is because
its SCSI controller (on the drive, not the card) cannot handle it.

I have had only one problem, that very occasionally it fails to power
up properly.  A sharp thump to the front of the PC's case cures it,
which suggests that the heads are not moving from their parked position
(the drive auto-parks on power-down).  This has only happened about 4 or 5
times, over several months, and could be due to the room being rather
cold.  
Although the drive is very goods value for money, I am disappointed by 
its performance limitations.  A better controller would help, but I am 
planning to upgrade capacity as well, and I looking at a Conner 200Mb
IDE drive, which seems to be good value and is very highly regarded by
net.people.  I will keep the ST296n as a second drive, and use it for
storing little-used software (shareware that I haven't evaluated etc)
and at a future date may change the controller.

I don't know what your budget is like, but I would try to get the best
drive affordable, not just the best value per byte, which is why I got
the 296 in the first place.  I don't regret buying it (about a year ago)
but nowadays there is better to be had.

All of the above is my own opinion, and as such may be rubbish!

Hope some of this is useful - good luck.

Howard.-- 
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thoger@solan.unit.no (Terje Th|gersen) (03/05/91)

In article <1991Feb27.200007.2439@ibmpcug.co.uk> hdrw@ibmpcug.co.uk (Howard Winter) writes:

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   I had no problems with the installation, but the formatting process does 
   not allow the interleave factor to be changed.  It is set to 3:1 by the
   software giving a transfer rate of 310K bytes/second.  I believe that
   the 8-bit controller would not be able to handle 2:1 or 1:1 interleave.

   Coretest gives performance figures: Average seek time 31.5mS, track-to-
   track seek: 10.8mS.  Data transfer 310Kb/Sec, Performance factor 3.5 XT.

   I have heard this drive described as 'famously brain-damaged' and that
   it cannot be formatted at 1:1 interleave.  I understand this is because
   its SCSI controller (on the drive, not the card) cannot handle it.

   I have had only one problem, that very occasionally it fails to power
   up properly.  A sharp thump to the front of the PC's case cures it,
   which suggests that the heads are not moving from their parked position
   (the drive auto-parks on power-down).  This has only happened about 4 or 5
   times, over several months, and could be due to the room being rather
   cold.  

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Hi!

You can format the drive down to 2:1 using the program in the BIOS, or
using Diskmanager with the /M option. 

I've used two of these drives, and they've worked at 2:1 in an
AT-compatible as well as my current 386sx. I've used ST01 and ST02
controllers, both with BIOS-revs 3.0.0. I tried 1:1, but this did not
work. 

I have, however, seen a post from a guy that claimed he got 1:1 from a
ST296/ST01 combo in a 25MHz 386.

As for the "not-starting-up-properly"-problem, one of my drives
developed this problem after about a year of usage. It seemed to be
related to the temperature of the drive. (In other words, if I'd left
the window open, so the drive was chilled down to 10-15 deg. Celsius,
I'd get the problem every time.) I "cured" the problem by leaving the
computer on for a minute or so, and then rebooting.

A few comments, not previously noted : The drives run *very* hot. In
fact, after just a few minutes, they are almost uncomfortably warm to
the touch.

Secondly : noise.. Two of these starting up and going through their
self-tests will, for example, require you to shout when using the 
telephone.. :-)

  -Terje

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