[fa.info-vax] Decnet, remote terminals, and disconnecting

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (06/13/85)

From: Bakin@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA

I would like to initiate a remote session over decnet (vax to vax) with
the set host xxx command, and then disconnect or deattach leaving the
session going and ready to be reconnected to.  (By "going" I mean hanging
around, not actually executing.)  I can't find out how to set the remote
terminal stuff so that disconnect works and I can't deattach since ^Y out
of the set host always terminates the connection.  Can someone help?

OK:  My main goal is to leave the remote session logged in with all my
environment, etc., and so I don't have to be running my enormous login.com
each time I log in remotely.  The way we have our vaxen configured the
remote system is dedicated to batch jobs and I log in many many times a
day (even many many times an hour) to the remote machine.

Thank you in advance -- Dave Bakin (Bakin -at mit-multics)

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (06/13/85)

From: Richard Garland <OC.GARLAND%CU20B@COLUMBIA.ARPA>

disconnection from DECnet logins:

The normal VAX - VAX DECnet does not provide for this since 1) RTA's aren't
disconnectable and 2) The local DECnet server RTPAD will not disconnect
without dropping the conection.

I have accomplished this by means of subprocesses running under control
of some agent (i.e. emacs) and running on a PTY.  The senario is:
Start Emacs; emacs starts a subproc in a window using a PTY; subprocess
does remote login; emacs filters all io and has an escape built in;
escape back to emacs; exit to DCL leaving subproc there. Later reenter
emacs, and the remote session.

This is all a big kludge but it works.  You could write a simple version
(all you really need is the PTY (look on next decus tape)).

DEC should look at how the DEC-20 works and see how they should do things
like this.
					Rg
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info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (06/15/85)

From: decwrl!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!aphasia!gww@BERKELEY (George Williams)

Where can I get documentation on an emacs that has the capability to run
commands in PTYs?  Thanks in advance...
			George Williams
			{decvax!frog, cit-vax}!aphasia!gww

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (06/16/85)

From: Richard Garland <OC.GARLAND%CU20B@COLUMBIA.ARPA>

We use Goseling emacs, pre-Unipress version with PTY's from CMU put in
by someone at UPenn.  None of these versions, people, places, etc. are
publically available as far as I know.  As for ducomentation, you gotta
be kidding ...
					Rg
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