[fa.info-vax] VAX != VMS

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (07/25/85)

From: Kevin Carosso <engvax!KVC@cit-vax>

While it is true that VAX != VMS, please understand that this is
the only distribution list (that I know of) that us VMS people
have.  We get a lot of VMS mileage out of this list and have been
(thankfully) free of the usual UNIX vs. everything-else theological
arguments (most of the time) (and VMS vs. everything-else ones too!).

Anyway, I for one (can't speak for everyone else) certainly welcome
any issue that has to do with VMS and VAXen, however UNIX issues that
are not strictly VAX related are probably better directed to UNIX-WIZARDS
or INFO-UNIX.

I guess it's a case, as with so many things in life, of following the
spirit of the issue rather than the letter...

By the way, I like UNIX too, and read both UNIX-WIZARDS and INFO-UNIX
when I have time (but am hopelessly behind on those!).


	/Kevin Carosso            engvax!kvc @ CIT-VAX.ARPA
	 Hughes Aircraft Co.

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (07/28/85)

From: michael@cit-vlsi (Michael Lichter)

As a manager of three 4.2BSD UNIX VAX machines, I'm really not interested
in VMS issues.  Right now we have this list, which might as well be INFO-VMS,
which occasionally covers things of operating-system-independent value.
UNIX-WIZARDS and INFO-UNIX also discuss the hardware that affects us all, 
but seperately, in parallel.  If this list could split off into INFO-VMS
and INFO-VAX, and the UNIX people on the other lists be convinced to 
discuss hardware issues in INFO-VAX, I think everything would work out
better for everybody.

Michael

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (07/28/85)

From: Scott Alexander <salex@rice.ARPA>

I don't believe that there would be any traffic on an OS independent version
of info-vax.  I can't think of a question which I have seen on unix-wizards,
info-unix, or info-vax which was OS independent.  Some of the RA81 stuff was
close, but most questions ultimately come down to "how do I attach X to my
machine" which involves drivers and such like or question like the recurring
translation look aside buffer parity error problems which only seem to occur
under Unix.

I agree that info-vms would have been a better name for this list
originally.  As is, everyone is used to this name.  If we accept the
reasoning of the above paragraph, there is no reason to change it since it
is likely to cause more confusion than it solves. Perhaps the list of lists
description should be changed to indicate that more VMS than Unix is
discussed.

Scott Alexander
Rice University
salex@rice