[fa.info-vax] Xon/Xoff in Emacs

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (07/31/85)

From: *Hobbit* <AWalker@RUTGERS.ARPA>

Terminals that can't handle typeout at 9600 baud without flow control
generally *are* inferior.  Current hardware is quite capable of doing 19.2
without any trouble if the thing is correctly designed.  Older terminals
may suffer some, which is why the capability to insert padding for certain
functions exists in termcap and its ilk.  Your best bet is to buy a real
terminal that you can use real editors on...

_H*
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info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (08/01/85)

From: Provan@LLL-MFE.ARPA


That sounds a little extreme.  I've never seen a terminal that can delete
several lines off a screen without some padding, although I'm sure there
are some.  Other complex functions like deleting or inserting characters
usually take a lot of time, too.  Are there actually terminals that can
do all of their functions without getting a little padding?  My experience
has been that the more sophisticated the hardware, the more they make it
do for the user, so the likelyhood of having to pad remains about the
same.

Did anyone answer the original question?  This guy has a stupid terminal
(needless to say, since it's a DEC terminal) which has a feature (^S
and ^Q are terminal functions, not characters to be transmitted) that
he's trying to get around.  I think his choice is probably between Emacs
and some other editor, not between terminals.  Can't a Emacs wizard tell
him how to move ^S and ^Q?  There must be a way.
CC:     *Hobbit* <AWalker@RUTGERS.ARPA>,
	info-vax@sri-kl.arpa

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (08/06/85)

From: ihnp4!houxm!ho95e!wcs@BERKELEY

Hobbit at Rutgers comments that terminals that need ^S^Q to reach 9600 are
antiques and should be replaced with decent hardware.  While that's nice in
theory, lots of us work on data LANs, or use PCs running terminal emulators, or
use other combinations of things that occasionally need flow control.
Emacs never should have used ^S^Q in the first place, but that's water under
the bridge.
			Bill Stewart, ucbvax!ihnp4!ho95c!wcs