piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum) (01/14/90)
[This contains a correction to the original proposal --moderator] Hereby I propose the creation of a new newsgroup comp.text.tex. The newsgroup will not be moderated. The newsgroup is for TeX and LaTeX related postings. These are now mainly found in comp.text, with some Postscript dvi-driver related postings in comp.lang.postscript. About half (or a little bit more) of comp.text is devoted to TeX and LaTeX, and a lot of TeXers rather would not be bothered by nroff/troff or even WordPerfect. This motivates the place in the hierarchy. The name consists of lowercase characters only, because of news software constraints. The creation of the newsgroup will also make it easier for the TeXhax Digest told be bi-directionally gatewayed. It is now gatewayed *into* comp.text, but for the benefit of those poor people without Usenet access, the other way would also be preferable. Unfortunately, the call for discussion sent to the TeXhax digest has never appeared there. Moreover, the messages I sent to the moderators to ask their opinion have never been replied (or at least I did not get a reply). So I don't know if they intend to do a bidirectional gateway. Votes should be *MAILED* to piet@cs.ruu.nl (It is O.K to reply to this message and edit the subject to contain YES or NO). We are connected to the internet [131.211.80.2]. If you have difficulties try to reach me through a mailer that knows about MX records, e.g. uunet.uu.net, or mcvax for bitnetters. The message should state unambiguously whether the vote is YES or NO. The preferred wording is: I vote YES to comp.text.tex, or alternatively: I vote NO to comp.text.tex. A sentence like this in the subject line, or the body of the message will simplify automatic tallying. Actually, a line with "vote" and/or "comp.text.tex", and either "yes" or "no" in it, is o.k. Case is not important. Only private votes are valid. Posted votes will not be accepted, even if you can't reach me by mail. If you are in desperate need, you might post a message to me to try to contact you, given enough information about your address. I will try to acknowledge each vote separately, but as there are a lot of brain-damaged mailers in the world, it is not guaranteed to work in all cases. I will in any case make a mass acknowledgement (what a difficult word :=). The voting period will end on Sunday, Feb 11, 1990 on 00:00 (GMT). Votes received after this time will not count. Be aware of the time differences if you vote on Saturday, Feb 10. -- Piet* van Oostrum, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands. Telephone: +31-30-531806 Uucp: uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!piet Telefax: +31-30-513791 Internet: piet@cs.ruu.nl (*`Pete') From news@ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl Mon Jan 15 00:45:41 1990 Received: from mcsun.eu.net by ncar.ucar.EDU (5.61/1.00.UUCP-MOD.8-11-85) id AA27353; Mon, 15 Jan 90 00:45:41 MST Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 15 Jan 90 08:45:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl by hp4nl.nluug.nl with SMTP id AA23884 (5.58.1.14/2.14); Mon, 15 Jan 90 08:46:33 +0100 Received: by ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl (5.61+/IDA-1.2.8) id AA22971; Mon, 15 Jan 90 08:45:13 +0100 To: news-announce-newgroups@hp4nl.nluug.nl Path: ruuinf!cs.ruu.nl From: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.text Subject: CALL FOR VOTES: comp.text.tex (version 2) Message-Id: <2294@ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl> Date: 15 Jan 90 07:45:09 GMT Sender: news@ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl Reply-To: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum) Followup-To: news.groups Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands Lines: 54 Status: R Hereby I propose the creation of a new newsgroup comp.text.tex. The newsgroup will not be moderated. The newsgroup is for TeX and LaTeX related postings. These are now mainly found in comp.text, with some Postscript dvi-driver related postings in comp.lang.postscript. About half (or a little bit more) of comp.text is devoted to TeX and LaTeX, and a lot of TeXers rather would not be bothered by nroff/troff or even WordPerfect. This motivates the place in the hierarchy. The name consists of lowercase characters only, because of news software constraints. The creation of the newsgroup will also make it easier for the TeXhax Digest told be bi-directionally gatewayed. It is now gatewayed *into* comp.text, but for the benefit of those poor people without Usenet access, the other way would also be preferable. Unfortunately, the moderators of TeXhax have lately been very busy, and the backlog was just too big for the call for discussion to appear on TeXhax. One of the moderators replied that he was not hostile to the idea, but that he just had no idea what the implications for TeXhax would be. Votes should be *MAILED* to piet@cs.ruu.nl (It is O.K to reply to this message and edit the subject to contain YES or NO). We are connected to the internet [131.211.80.2]. If you have difficulties try to reach me through a mailer that knows about MX records, e.g. uunet.uu.net, or mcvax for bitnetters. The message should state unambiguously whether the vote is YES or NO. The preferred wording is: I vote YES to comp.text.tex, or alternatively: I vote NO to comp.text.tex. A sentence like this in the subject line, or the body of the message will simplify automatic tallying. Actually, a line with "vote" and/or "comp.text.tex", and either "yes" or "no" in it, is o.k. Case is not important. Only private votes are valid. Posted votes will not be accepted, even if you can't reach me by mail. If you are in desperate need, you might post a message to me to try to contact you, given enough information about your address. I will try to acknowledge each vote separately, but as there are a lot of brain-damaged mailers in the world, it is not guaranteed to work in all cases. I will in any case make a mass acknowledgement (what a difficult word :=). The voting period will end on Sunday, Feb 11, 1990 on 00:00 (GMT). Votes received after this time will not count. Be aware of the time differences if you vote on Saturday, Feb 10. -- Piet* van Oostrum, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands. Telephone: +31-30-531806 Uucp: uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!piet Telefax: +31-30-513791 Internet: piet@cs.ruu.nl (*`Pete')