[news.announce.newgroups] CALL FOR VOTES: IBM-PC Reorganisation

rja@edison.GE.COM (rja) (04/12/90)

[This message is being posted somewhat late, due to the holidays.-eliot]

  At long last, after lengthy discussion, this is the formal CALL FOR VOTES
for the cleanup/reorganisation of the IBM-PC related newsgroups.  
Inspiration for this effort came from Chuq's efforts with the Mac groups.

  There are two proposals which are outlined below.  All votes must
be mailed back to me within 30 days of the posting of this article
by the moderator of news.announce.newgroups.  Votes should be
unambiguous and those containing commentary and "if it were..."
sentences will be treated as comments rather than votes as per the
USENET voting guidelines.  The preferred format for the vote is:

   Proposal 1:   vote
   Proposal 2:   vote

where vote is either YES or NO.  Proposals will be voted up or down
as a whole so we don't confuse the namespace any more than it already
is.  All groups are being proposed as UNMODERATED.

I will NOT send any individual acknowledgements, but I will endeavor 
to post at least one mid-vote mass-acknowledgement to news.announce.newgroups.

The Reply-To: header has been set so that you can vote easily just by
replying to this posting.  Discussion (if any) should be posted in
news.groups and the Followup-to: header has been set for that.



Proposal 1:
  create comp.os.os2.apps		-- for OS/2 Applications
  create comp.os.os2.misc 		-- for all other OS/2 stuff
  create comp.os.os2.programmer		-- for OS/2 programmer discussions
  after a month rmgroup comp.os.os2 & alias to ~.misc

  create comp.os.msdos.apps		-- for MS-DOS Applications
  create comp.os.msdos.misc		-- for all other MS-DOS stuff
  create comp.os.msdos.programmer	-- for MS-DOS programmer discussions
  after a month rmgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer & alias to ~.programmer

Proposal 2:
  create comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	-- XT/AT/EISA hardware   (any vendor)
  create comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware	-- Microchannel hardware (any vendor)
  create comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc		-- Everything else
  after a month rmgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc & alias to ~.misc


EXAMPLES of where existing discussions would fit with these proposals:

  programming languages and the API and BIOSes and such are all ~.programmer
  questions about what hardware can be used with what OS are in the
    hardware groups as would be discussions of printers, displays, keyboards,...
  discussions of databases, spreadsheets, wordprocessors & other applications 
    would belong in ~.apps 
  discussions/questions about installing an OS or getting the config.sys
    correct or using the OS user-level commands would all go into ~.misc

  
Other ideas considered but not being voted upon:

  Novell networks:  I received a fair bit of mail wanting a separate group
                    for Novell's Netware product, but almost every person
                    has a different idea of what the name should be for the
                    newsgroup.  In the absence of a clear consensus on the 
                    name, there shouldn't be a vote for the group yet.

  TCP/IP networks:  These are already discussed in comp.protocols.tcpip.ibmpc
                    and I know of no good reason to move that discussion.

  other pet newsgroup names:  The names proposed above are actually not at all
                    what I personally originally had in mind (see my 1st draft
                    posted to news.announce.newgroups a while back).
                      The proposed names above represent a true consensus of
                    people who either sent me mail or posted to news.groups.
                      I firmly believe that consensus is the best way to 
                    decide on news group names and so I am following that
                    consensus.