timl@maxwell.Concordia.CA ( TIM LAPIN ) (08/03/89)
Simple question: How do you cross post? I did it accidentally once, but I don't remember how. Thanks. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Tim Lapin |INTERNET: timl@maxwell.concordia.ca| Printed Opinions?| |Computer Centre |BITNET: timl@vax2.concordia.ca | Just the fax | |Concordia University |Tel: (514) 848-7639 | ma'am. |
bnews@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) (08/09/89)
timl@maxwell.Concordia.CA ( TIM LAPIN ) writes: >Simple question: > How do you cross post? Simple answer. You don't, if it isn't absolutely necessary. If it is necessary, just specify a list of newsgroups in the Newsgroups. line. Postnews will take care of that for you, by prompting for newsgroups with a '>' prompt until you answer that with a simple carriage return (meaning 'end-of-list'). All the newsgroups you specified will get crossposted to. I think the first one is the group to contain the actual article, all the others only get links. If you use a newsreader that doesn't give you the chance to specify a bunch of newsgroups, you can always edit the header when in the editor. Edit the line 'Newsgroups.' to contain a list of all groups you want to post to. I think the list is space separated but don't nail me on that one. So, I hope this answers your question. Martin -- Martin Boening Email: USA: uunet!linus!nixbur!mboening.pad !USA: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!mboening.pad
esker@abaa.uucp (Lawrence Esker) (08/12/89)
In article <1055@clyde.Concordia.CA> timl@maxwell.Concordia.Ca ( TIM LAPIN ) writes: >Simple question: > How do you cross post? > >I did it accidentally once, but I don't remember how. > >Thanks. Simple answer. The NewsGroups: header line contain a comma separated list of all the newsgroups to cross post to. When editing your post, just change this line. As an example, I changed the newsgroup line of your message to: Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,misc.test to cross post to 'misc.test'. Hopefully, *IF* anyone reads that group, they won't be offended :-) -- ---------- Lawrence W. Esker ---------- Modern Amish: Thou shalt not need any \ * * * ******* / computer that is not IBM compatible. \ * * * * * / \ * * * * * ***** / Sr. Hardware/ASIC Design Engineer \ * * * * * * / Allen-Bradley Communications Div. \ ******* * * ******* / Work: (313)668-2500 Home: (313)973-8561 ----------------------------- Compuserve: 76337,2524 UseNet Smart: esker@abaa.uucp or abaa!esker@itivax.iti.org UseNet Other: __!uunet!mimsy!rutgers!citi!itivax!abaa!esker Nothing left to do but :-) ;-) ;-D
edhew@xenitec.uucp (Ed Hew) (08/13/89)
In article <424@nixpbe.UUCP> bnews@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) writes: >timl@maxwell.Concordia.CA ( TIM LAPIN ) writes: > >>Simple question: >> How do you cross post? > >Simple answer. You don't, if it isn't absolutely necessary. I like that !! :-) >'Newsgroups.' to contain a list of all groups you want to post to. >I think the list is space separated but don't nail me on that one. Some chunks of software want to see a ',' as a deliminator, but not all. The user should contact his/her sysadmin on that one. It depends on how they compiled their version of 'news'. >Martin Boening >USA: uunet!linus!nixbur!mboening.pad Ed. A. Hew Authorized Technical Trainer Xeni/Con Corporation work: edhew@xenicon.uucp -or- ..!{uunet!}utai!lsuc!xenicon!edhew ->home: edhew@egvideo.uucp -or- ..!{uunet!}watmath!egvideo!edhew ->home: changing to: edhew@xenitec.uucp [but be patient for new maps] # I haven't lost my mind, it's backed up on floppy around here somewhere!
esker@abaa.uucp (Lawrence Esker) (08/15/89)
In article <424@nixpbe.UUCP> bnews@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) writes: >timl@maxwell.Concordia.CA ( TIM LAPIN ) writes: > >>Simple question: >> How do you cross post? > >Simple answer. You don't, if it isn't absolutely necessary. If it is >necessary, just specify a list of newsgroups in the Newsgroups. line. And why not? If a topic relates to more than one subject, it should be cross posted. It does not use extra bandwidth. It invites both sides of an issue to interact instead of all these one sided slams that we get. This is a public network, not a group of independent newsgroup cliques. For example discussion of minix on the Amiga would go into comp.os.minix and comp.sys.amiga. A presentation on the modern social behavior of men and women in the 1990's as it effect the nuclear family would go into soc.singles, soc.men, and soc.wowem. The newsreader prevents a user from seeing an issue more than once if he/she happens to subscribe to more than one newsgroup in the cross post. Addmitidly, some do get carried away and cross post to groups that have no relationship to the topic under discussion. It would be very rude to cross post an article praising the merits of the Amiga to comp.os.vms, comp.sys.mac, comp.sys.ibm-pc, etc., etc. Especially if it is one sided opinion without any factual or technical mention of the machines cross posted to. >I think the list is space separated but don't nail me on that one. (Comma separated, not space. Sorry, just a little tack :-) ) >Martin Lawrence W. Esker Definition: FROWN, a smile with a hangover.
charleen@zodiac.ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) (08/17/89)
In article <1202@abaa.UUCP> esker@mars.UUCP (Lawrence Esker) writes: >In article <424@nixpbe.UUCP> bnews@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) writes: >>timl@maxwell.Concordia.CA ( TIM LAPIN ) writes: >> >>>Simple question: >>> How do you cross post? >> >>Simple answer. You don't, if it isn't absolutely necessary. If it is >>necessary, just specify a list of newsgroups in the Newsgroups. line. > >And why not? If a topic relates to more than one subject, it should be cross >posted. It does not use extra bandwidth. It invites both sides of an issue >to interact instead of all these one sided slams that we get. This is a >public network, not a group of independent newsgroup cliques. > >For example discussion of minix on the Amiga would go into comp.os.minix and >comp.sys.amiga. A presentation on the modern social behavior of men and >women in the 1990's as it effect the nuclear family would go into >soc.singles, soc.men, and soc.wowem. You forgot soc.couples, soc.feminism, soc.motss, and soc.partridge.in.a.pear.tree. I'm sure *they'll* all be interested in this fascinating but vague hypothetical discussion of yours. But admit it: you don't read the soc.* groups much, do you? Newusers: pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Any discussion, such as the one Mr. Esker suggests, that is so unfocussed as to fall under the guidelines of a number of soc.* groups is likely to be pointless. Better to focus on a subset of the issues. You'll get more meaningful dialogue and annoy fewer people that way. There are very few articles that are acutely pertinent to more than one newsgroup, and if you think yours is, you're probably wrong. If you need help determining which newsgroup to post to, try the lists in news.announce.newusers. Charleen ..if you take this interpretation to mean that I support discrimination of stupid people -- you're absolutely right. They've got too many rights already. -- Matthew W. Daly
davr@hrtix.UUCP (David C. Raines) (08/17/89)
>In article <1202@abaa.UUCP>, esker@abaa.uucp (Lawrence Esker) writes: >> In article <424@nixpbe.UUCP> bnews@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) writes: >> >timl@maxwell.Concordia.CA ( TIM LAPIN ) writes: >> > >> >>Simple question: >> >> How do you cross post? >> > >> >Simple answer. You don't, if it isn't absolutely necessary. If it is >> >necessary, just specify a list of newsgroups in the Newsgroups. line. Lawrence replies: >> soc.singles, soc.men, and soc.wowem. The newsreader prevents a user from >> seeing an issue more than once if he/she happens to subscribe to more than >> one newsgroup in the cross post. I,m a new news user, so maybe I,ve done something wrong in installing the software, but when articles are cross-posted I see them in every group they are cross-posted to. I am using vnews (the same thing happens in readnews) If I can fix this, can someone tell me how? -- -- TCA David Raines 5 National Dr. UUCP: ...!uunet!hrtix!davr Windsor Locks, CT 06096
carl@aoa.UUCP (Carl Witthoft) (08/18/89)
In article <1202@abaa.UUCP> esker@mars.UUCP (Lawrence Esker) writes: >In article <424@nixpbe.UUCP> bnews@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) writes: >>timl@maxwell.Concordia.CA ( TIM LAPIN ) writes: >>> How do you cross post? >>Simple answer. You don't, if it isn't absolutely necessary. If it is >And why not? If a topic relates to more than one subject, it should be cross >posted. It does not use extra bandwidth. It invites both sides of an issue >to interact instead of all these one sided slams that we get. This is a >public network, not a group of independent newsgroup cliques. Two problems: the main one is that NO-ONE EVER looks at the post list when following up, so that followups go all over the newsgroups forever and ever. This is especially bad when talk.bizarre is one of the groups... you never get the garbage out of the other groups. In general, mixing sci.* and/or misc.* with any soc.* tends to mix rational ( you hope :=( ), personal, and outrageous flammatory stuff into a useless pile of noise. Personnaly, I'd vote for a mod to rn which makes the default Followup-to line contain ONLY the group presently being read, so that it takes active effort to inundate all the other groups with responses. Oh, yes, the other problem: cross-posts to 75 groups because the poster either isn't sure what group is appropriate or wants to be sure that EVERYONE who might care gets to read his words of wonder. -- Alix' Dad ( Carl Witthoft @ Adaptive Optics Associates) {harvard,ima}!bbn!aoa!carl 54 CambridgePark Drive, Cambridge,MA 02140 617-864-0201 "disclaimer? I'm not a doctor, but I do have a Master's Degree in Science!"
tarvaine@tukki.jyu.fi (Tapani Tarvainen) (08/21/89)
In article <880@aoa.UUCP> carl@aoa (Carl Witthoft) writes: >[...] NO-ONE EVER looks at the post >list when following up, so that followups go all over the newsgroups >forever and ever. I would recommend that whenever you cross post, for whatever reason, ALWAYS put one, exactly one, of the groups to the Followup-to line. > Personnaly, I'd vote >for a mod to rn which makes the default Followup-to line contain >ONLY the group presently being read, so that it takes active >effort to inundate all the other groups with responses. But then the discussion would be scattered around (depending on the order in which each reads the groups). How about using the first of the groups listed? -- Tapani Tarvainen (tarvaine@tukki.jyu.fi, tarvainen@finjyu.bitnet)