[news.newusers.questions] No no... bad and wrong solutions within

merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal Schwartz) (08/24/89)

In article <1377@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US>, swan@jolnet (Joel Swan) writes:
| Thanks to all of those (at least 10) who reponded by mail and posting.
| Here is a quick look at the ideas given.
| 
| 1. s or w (save or save w/o header) the posting to a file and use Kermit or cat
|    to the screen
| 
| 2. s /dev/tty  or w /dev/tty  and ascii capture
| 
| 3. s|/dev/tty  or w|/dev/tty  and ascii capture

Wrong wrong wrong.  You are attemping then to execute commands typed
in from the terminal.  Essentially, you have said "run the shell
script located at /dev/tty" ... which is the name for your terminal.
The shell processing the "|" command will start reading commands from
your terminal and executing them one by one, with the news article as
standard-input!

| 4. |cat  or  |/dev/tty  and ascii capture

Second one is the same thing!!!  Wrong wrong wrong.

| So far I've used method 1 for longer postings and file (with Kermit) and
| method 4 and ascii caprutre for short uudecoded postings.
| 
| Again, thanks for each and every person who replied.
| (Hey, this group did a good job.  Congrats.  Some music amongst the noise :-)

Just be careful and practice "safe computing"... you don't know where
those answers came from. :-)

Just another UNIX hacker,
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| on contract to Intel, Hillsboro, Oregon, USA                           |
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swan@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US (Joel Swan) (08/24/89)

In article <4841@omepd.UUCP> merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal Schwartz) writes:
+In article <1377@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US>, swan@jolnet (Joel Swan) writes:
+| Thanks to all of those (at least 10) who reponded by mail and posting.
+| Here is a quick look at the ideas given.
.
[I describe some methods]
.
+| 1. s or w (save or save w/o header) the posting to a file and use Kermit or cat
+| 3. s|/dev/tty  or w|/dev/tty  and ascii capture
+Wrong wrong wrong.  You are attemping then to execute commands typed
+in from the terminal.  Essentially, you have said "run the shell

[more explanation of why they shouldn't work]

+| 4. |cat  or  |/dev/tty  and ascii capture
+Second one is the same thing!!!  Wrong wrong wrong.
+Just another UNIX hacker,
+-- 
+/== Randal L. Schwartz, Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 ====\
+| on contract to Intel, Hillsboro, Oregon, USA                           |
+| merlyn@iwarp.intel.com ...!uunet!iwarp.intel.com!merlyn	         |
+\== Cute Quote: "Welcome to Oregon... Home of the California Raisins!" ==/
.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that these work-arounds are performed from within
RN.  They work fine when using RN.
(Well, at least they seem to work without a hitch so far.)
Does this make a difference Randal?  Or is it still not kosher?


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merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal Schwartz) (08/26/89)

In article <1396@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US>, swan@jolnet (Joel Swan) writes:
| Sorry, I forgot to mention that these work-arounds are performed from within
| RN.  They work fine when using RN.
| (Well, at least they seem to work without a hitch so far.)
| Does this make a difference Randal?  Or is it still not kosher?

Wow!???!!

You have demonstrated evidence that:

   s|/dev/tty

works?  I'll bet my UNIX guru card (#42) that it doesn't, or rn(1) has
some very spooky code in it.  You are saying:

"take the article, and feed it into the stdin of a PROCESS running
the command-or-shell-script found in the file /dev/tty."

I'd believe:

   s /dev/tty

and

   s|cat

both work, but not the "combination" of piping and /dev/tty.  It
makes no sense.

Still hanging on to my guru card... :-)
-- 
/== Randal L. Schwartz, Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 ====\
| on contract to Intel, Hillsboro, Oregon, USA                           |
| merlyn@iwarp.intel.com ...!uunet!iwarp.intel.com!merlyn	         |
\== Cute Quote: "Welcome to Oregon... Home of the California Raisins!" ==/

swan@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US (Joel Swan) (08/27/89)

In article <4855@omepd.UUCP> merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal Schwartz) writes:
:In article <1396@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US>, swan@jolnet (Joel Swan) writes:
:| Sorry, I forgot to mention that these work-arounds are performed from within
:| RN.  They work fine when using RN.
:| (Well, at least they seem to work without a hitch so far.)
:| Does this make a difference Randal?  Or is it still not kosher?
:
:Wow!???!!
:
:You have demonstrated evidence that:
:
:   s|/dev/tty
:
:works?  I'll bet my UNIX guru card (#42) that it doesn't, or rn(1) has
:some very spooky code in it.  You are saying:

Oops.  No. Sorry about that.  I humbly appologize for that mistake.
I meant to say that 
s /dev/tty DOES work (I just did it to your notice) and
|cat works (I also just did this). 

My appologies for mixing-up combinations.  I think it's time to bring in the
old brain for a lub-job.

:
:"take the article, and feed it into the stdin of a PROCESS running
:the command-or-shell-script found in the file /dev/tty."
:
:I'd believe:
:
:   s /dev/tty
:
:and
:
:   s|cat
:
:both work, but not the "combination" of piping and /dev/tty.  It
:makes no sense.
:
:Still hanging on to my guru card... :-)

As Emily Latella (sp?) said on Sat. Night Live....

"Never mind..."

:/== Randal L. Schwartz, Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 ====\
:| on contract to Intel, Hillsboro, Oregon, USA                           |
:| merlyn@iwarp.intel.com ...!uunet!iwarp.intel.com!merlyn	         |
:\== Cute Quote: "Welcome to Oregon... Home of the California Raisins!" ==/


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 - Joel E. Swan
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[  "...peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ."    Romans 5:8    ]