[news.newusers.questions] CompuServe and other places near and far

6600pete@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (10/21/89)

I know it gets posted monthly, but do you think someone could mail me
the addressing schemes for various online services not directly
connected to UseNet. Specifically I'm think of CompuServe, but I would
appreciate info on all of them.

Assume I know a little about addressing but not enough to figure out one
of those hideously long headers in a piece of mail that's been routed
across various sites on various nets.
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  | GurgleKat (Pete Gontier), pete@cavevax.ucsb.edu
  | .UUCP reply addresses bounce; try another path.
  | ...if you'd gone to Dartmouth, you'd not have had to take the math.

epsilon@wet.UUCP (Eric P. Scott) (10/22/89)

In article <2636@hub.UUCP> pete@cavevax.ucsb.edu writes:
>I know it gets posted monthly, but do you think someone could mail me
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ since when?
>the addressing schemes for various online services not directly
>connected to UseNet.

No, I don't think someone could.
USENET is not MAIL
USENET is not UUCP
USENET is not part of UNIX
(ad nauseum)

USENET is a LOGICAL network--it crosses over distinctions between
uucp, Internet, DECNET, BITNET II, etc.  How you *mail* to
various places is a question for your local site--this has
NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with usenet, even if your newsreading
software provides an interface to your local mail transport.
You *do not* mail "from usenet."


* * * *
* *IF* you already know how to mail to Internet, you would
* address an individual CIS/EasyPlex (7xxxx,yyyyy) user as
* 7xxxx.yyyyy@compuserve.com -- i.e. change the , to . and add
* @compuserve.com.  There is a 50,000 character limit on each
* message sent this way.  There is a different addressing scheme
* for business (InfoPlex) customers and Compuserve employees, and
* those are not subject to the 50,000 limit.  You can mail to
* postmaster@compuserve.com for more information.
* * * *

If you don't already know how to mail to Internet, I can't help
you--different sites handle this in different ways.  Find out
what works for YOUR site.  P.S. If your mail relay still doesn't
understand MX records (or worse, doesn't even use DNS), you are
in trouble.


Compuserve is a relatively easy example.  Interesting places with
better connectivity require considerably more explanation.  I
tried putting together a "cheat sheet" for an Internet site
listing various networks and how to get to them; even with major
omissions and "contact XXX for more information" it still filled
the better part of a page ... in small type.  Doing this "right"
would require a looseleaf notebook and an update service.

					-=EPS=-

6600pete@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (10/28/89)

In article <697@wet.UUCP> epsilon@wet.UUCP (Eric P. Scott) writes:
> In article <2636@hub.UUCP> pete@cavevax.ucsb.edu writes:
>>I know it gets posted monthly, but do you think someone could mail me
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ since when?

Since I saw it posted a few weeks ago preceded by the announcement: "in
accordance with monthly posting schedules, here is..."

>>the addressing schemes for various online services not directly
>>connected to UseNet.

> No, I don't think someone could.

Someone has. Someone who knew what I was talking about and acted on it,
as opposed to what you've done, which equates to knowing what I was
talking about and refusing to admit it.

> USENET is not MAIL
> USENET is not UUCP
> USENET is not part of UNIX
> (ad nauseum)

Yes yes, I'm sorry. I'm not THAT new of a user, I just slipped.

I see the pseudo-group "Junk", which locally is full of all the groups
that don't fit anywhere else. (I guess from FidoNet, mostly.) That
brings the point home. But everybody else seems to be from UNIX boxes,
and that leads to the (unconscious and unintentional) conclusion that
UseNet is "somewhere."

Anyway, someone MUCH less concerned with flaming has already sent me a
VERY useful list that shows how to send mail to AppleLink, CompuServe,
MCI Mail, and a few other more obscure places. If anyone would like a
copy, I'd be happy to share.
--
  | GurgleKat (Pete Gontier), pete@cavevax.ucsb.edu
  | .UUCP reply addresses bounce; try another path.
  | ...if you'd gone to Dartmouth, you'd not have had to take the math.