ae219dp@prism.gatech.EDU (Devon Prichard) (02/02/90)
on about every fifth or so article I read, the text goes past the 80th column, and the last character spells out a whole sentence one character at a time. I'm using MS-Kermit in VT-100 mode on an XT clone, Herc graphics, logging onto a Sequent 81 unix box, in k-shell. I use "rn" to read Usenet. is this problem with my terminal emulation, the data connection, the Sequent, the article, or what ?? thanks in retreat, -- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| | Devon Prichard making the world safe for helicopters ... | | ae219dp@prism.gatech.edu | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
paul@actrix.co.nz (Paul Gillingwater) (02/08/90)
In article <5604@hydra.gatech.EDU> ae219dp@prism.gatech.EDU (Devon Prichard) writes: > >on about every fifth or so article I read, the text goes past the 80th >column, and the last character spells out a whole sentence one character >at a time. I'm using MS-Kermit in VT-100 mode on an XT clone, Herc graphics, >logging onto a Sequent 81 unix box, in k-shell. I use "rn" to read MS-Kermit can fix the problem with: set term wrap on You can put it in your mskermit.ini file to make it automatic. I posted this rather than e-mailing, because it brings up a related problem: editors like emacs and vi, which I guess are the two most common editors used with USEnet, don't word wrap when they hit the right margin. DOes someone know of a PD editor which DOES wordwrap under UNIX Sys V? Also, many Fido BBS solve this problem by using a soft CR at the end of some lines ($9D not $0D) to show that the paragraph has not ended yet, and can be wrapped to different margins if desired. As i'm planning to run UFGate, can someone advise what de facto standards exist for doing this with USEnet? I've seen heaps of postings from people who un-socially don't bother hitting RETURN before the 80th column. Also, I would recommend setting the column width to 72 cols, to allow for overflow when quoting messages. -- Paul Gillingwater, paul@actrix.co.nz
ron@motmpl.UUCP (Ron Widell) (02/09/90)
In article <1990Feb7.222553.5806@actrix.co.nz> paul@actrix.co.nz Paul Gillingwater) writes: >I posted this rather than e-mailing, because it brings up a related problem: >editors like emacs and vi, which I guess are the two most common editors >used with USEnet, don't word wrap when they hit the right margin. > If I understand your statement, I believe you can accomplish what you wish by setting the wrapmargin variable in vi. This can be set manually after invocation, via the EXINIT environment variable or in the .exrc file. Note that the number (decimal) value is the count from the right margin. > >Also, I would recommend setting the column width to 72 cols, to allow for >overflow when quoting messages. Thus if the TERM environment variable specifies a terminal defined by termcap or terminfo file to be 80 columns wide, 'set wm=8' would give you what you want, automatic word wrap beyond 72 characters. Obviously, a display with a different defined width would require a different value for wrapmargin. If this is not what you were referring to, I apologize for the waste of net.bandwidth. I posted rather than mailed as I thought it might help more than a few newusers (I think I worked with vi for about 3 years before I finally noticed it). Then again, I *always* set it manually (compilers are often less than pleased with unexpected new-lines :-)). Regards, -- Ron Widell, Field Applications Eng. |UUCP: {...}mcdchg!motmpl!ron Motorola Semiconductor Products, Inc., |Voice:(612)941-6800 9600 W. 76th St., Suite G | I'm from Silicon Tundra, Eden Prairie, Mn. 55344 -3718 | what could I know?
mdb@ESD.3Com.COM (Mark D. Baushke) (02/10/90)
In article <1990Feb7.222553.5806@actrix.co.nz>, paul@actrix.co.nz (Paul Gillingwater) writes: Paul> In article <5604@hydra.gatech.EDU> ae219dp@prism.gatech.EDU (Devon Prichard) writes: Devon> on about every fifth or so article I read, the text goes past Devon> the 80th column, and the last character spells out a whole Devon> sentence one character at a time. I'm using MS-Kermit in Devon> VT-100 mode on an XT clone, Herc graphics, logging onto a Devon> Sequent 81 unix box, in k-shell. I use "rn" to read Paul> MS-Kermit can fix the problem with: Paul> set term wrap on Paul> You can put it in your mskermit.ini file to make it automatic. Paul> I posted this rather than e-mailing, because it brings up a Paul> related problem: editors like emacs and vi, which I guess are Paul> the two most common editors used with USEnet, don't word wrap Paul> when they hit the right margin. Well, it depends on which Emacs and how it is configured. Under GNU Emacs, the use of M-x auto-fill-mode will make a particular buffer do word wrap (this entire paragraph was typed in without pressing the return key or doing a M-x fill-paragraph on it). It is also possible to configure your GNU Emacs to automatically use the auto-fill-mode on any new files or buffers or on a particular subset. Paul> DOes someone know of a PD editor which DOES wordwrap under UNIX Paul> Sys V? [...omitted...] GNU Emacs is not PD, but is freely available and might run on your box. Paul> Also, I would recommend setting the column width to 72 cols, to Paul> allow for overflow when quoting messages. Of course, using the 'supercite' package in GNU Emacs can also let you trivial reformat the paragraph to fit (as was done with the quotes above). Paul> Paul Gillingwater, paul@actrix.co.nz Just another GNU Emacs hacker, -- Mark D. Baushke mdb@ESD.3Com.COM