cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (06/12/90)
This is the monthly posting announcing the availability of printed manuals
for many of the software packages available via USENET.
For those of you whom would like to get printed documents for many of the
software packages available via USENET, I have put together a troff formatted
8 1/2 x 5 1/2 manual set containing all of the following:
Manual 1: The user's/programmer's reference Manual (416 pages)
1. Introduction and permuted index (16 pages)
2. The following manual pages: (400 pages)
a2p.1 cpr.1 listalias.1 perl.1 rnmail.1
afio.1 diffc.1 matches.1 pnews.1 rz.1
answer.1 diskhog.1 mcc.1 postnews.1 s2p.1
autoreply.1 dviselect.1 merge.1 printmail.1 sz.1
btoa.1 elm.1 messages.1 rcs-intro.1 texi2roff.1
bytesplit.1 fastmail.1 minirb.1 rcs.1 undump.1
cdecl.1 filter.1 modem_break.1 rcsclean.1 vnews.1
cfman.1 frm.1 mush.1 rcsdiff.1 waitfor.1
checkalias.1 gcc.1 newalias.1 rcsfreeze.1 which.1
checknews.1 grep.1 newmail.1 rcsmerge.1 wnewmail.1
ci.1 ident.1 newsetup.1 readmsg.1 zcmp.1
co.1 inews.1 newsgroups.1 readnews.1 zless.1
compress.1 less.1 patch.1 rlog.1 zmore.1
compressdir.1 lesskey.1 pcomm.1 rn.1
ftw.3 getdate.3 scanargs.3 scandir.3
news-b.5 news.5 newsrc.5 rcsfile.5
mn.7
dcheck.8 inews.8 nohog.8 recnews.8 sendnews.8
expire-b.8 newsaux.8 pathalias.8 relaynews.8 uurec.8
expire.8 newsbatch.8 pexpire-b.8 rnews.8
fsanalyze.8 newsmail.8 pexpire.8 sendbatch.8
Manual 2: The user's/programmer's reference guide (596 pages)
1. B News: Copyright, How To Read the Network News, Installation guide,
How to use Usenet Effectively, Usenet Messages standard
2. C News: Installation, The Interface Between C News and the Outside
World
3. Elm: User guide, Reference guide, Config guide, Alias Users guide,
Filter System guide, Forms Mode Guide
4. GNU: gnu-cpp, gnu-cc, gnu-gdb, gnu-make gnu-tar
5. Pcomm: Pcomm Reference Manual
6. RCS: Design paper, Functions of RCS
This was all printed using eroff (a third party DWB package for 386/ix that
includes HPlaserjet and postscript support) on a Panasonic Laser Partner.
The final print was made on 60# paper which should hold up quite well under
heavy usage.
The cash discount price, including shipping, is as follows:
Virginia Continental Hawii/Alaska
US Canada
Manual set $42.60 $41.00 $46.50
Manual set with binders $55.64 $53.50 $59.00
Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not
making any profit on the deal.
Pricing outside of North America will be $35.50 for the manuals, $12.00
for the binders, plus applicable shipping/handling. Send me a message
telling me where you are and I will respond with the costs. Please note
that all payments must be in US dollars.
The cash price includes a 3 % discount, so the credit card pricing will be
3% higher. COD orders will also be accepted. The COD charge is $5.00.
To order a copy:
Send a check, money order, whatever to
Virtual Technologies Inc.
46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling VA 22170.
Make sure you include the following:
1. the check/money order made out to Virtual Technologies
2. Your street address (UPS will not deliver to a pobox)
3. Your uucp mail address in case I need to get in touch
with you.
For credit card orders:
call: (703) 430-9247 and have the following information available:
1. your credit card number
2. expiration date
3. Home phone number
4. Street address and billing address
5. Your uucp mail address.
You can also snail-mail all that info to our address. Email
credit card orders will not be accepted.
--
Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc.,
uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling, VA 22170 esd@liebert.uucp (Eric Scott Deese) (06/12/90)
In article <1990Jun11.221620.1398@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: >This is the monthly posting announcing the availability of printed manuals >for many of the software packages available via USENET. [ lot's of stuff deleted ] >Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not >making any profit on the deal. > >-- >Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc., >uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160 > Sterling, VA 22170 Well heck, why not make a (small) profit on it. While you are at it, why not just package up the binaries for 386/ix, ESIX, SCO UNIX and SCO XENIX. Try to include as much of the GNU stuff as possible. I'm currently working on the GNU stuff under SCO UNIX. I don't have the time to bother making money from my effort, but someone should be able to. (This could almost be construed as an offer to help Conner or Karl Denninger or any of you resellers that has the resell ability to do this.) I feel someone should be making all of this stuff available in a convenient installable form. Of course, you don't want to charge too much, or I won't be able to buy it from you ;-). It's all just a thought. Eric Deese (osu-cis!liebert!esd)
cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (06/13/90)
In article <1990Jun12.144957.8879@liebert.uucp> esd@liebert.UUCP (Eric Scott Deese) writes: >Well heck, why not make a (small) profit on it. While you are at >it, why not just package up the binaries for 386/ix, ESIX, SCO UNIX >and SCO XENIX. Try to include as much of the GNU stuff as I am in the progress of putting everything together for a *source* tape that has the most recent source code for all of the programs in the manual set. However, the realistic costs for making and shipping a tape approach $100 which is too much for most people. (That is the price that I have the X11R4+fixes available for and only a few people have asked for it). I have not fully considered the problems with making a binary distribution, but I don't think they are small. Problems with configuration, maintenance updates, testing, QA, returns, etc all come to mind. -- Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc., uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160 Sterling, VA 22170
cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (08/07/90)
This is the monthly posting announcing the availability of printed manuals
for many of the software packages available via USENET.
For those of you whom would like to get printed documents for many of the
software packages available via USENET, I have put together a troff formatted
8 1/2 x 5 1/2 manual set containing all of the following:
Manual 1: The user's/programmer's reference Manual (416 pages)
1. Introduction and permuted index (16 pages)
2. The following manual pages: (400 pages)
a2p.1 cpr.1 listalias.1 perl.1 rnmail.1
afio.1 diffc.1 matches.1 pnews.1 rz.1
answer.1 diskhog.1 mcc.1 postnews.1 s2p.1
autoreply.1 dviselect.1 merge.1 printmail.1 sz.1
btoa.1 elm.1 messages.1 rcs-intro.1 texi2roff.1
bytesplit.1 fastmail.1 minirb.1 rcs.1 undump.1
cdecl.1 filter.1 modem_break.1 rcsclean.1 vnews.1
cfman.1 frm.1 mush.1 rcsdiff.1 waitfor.1
checkalias.1 gcc.1 newalias.1 rcsfreeze.1 which.1
checknews.1 grep.1 newmail.1 rcsmerge.1 wnewmail.1
ci.1 ident.1 newsetup.1 readmsg.1 zcmp.1
co.1 inews.1 newsgroups.1 readnews.1 zless.1
compress.1 less.1 patch.1 rlog.1 zmore.1
compressdir.1 lesskey.1 pcomm.1 rn.1
ftw.3 getdate.3 scanargs.3 scandir.3
news-b.5 news.5 newsrc.5 rcsfile.5
mn.7
dcheck.8 inews.8 nohog.8 recnews.8 sendnews.8
expire-b.8 newsaux.8 pathalias.8 relaynews.8 uurec.8
expire.8 newsbatch.8 pexpire-b.8 rnews.8
fsanalyze.8 newsmail.8 pexpire.8 sendbatch.8
Manual 2: The user's/programmer's reference guide (596 pages)
1. B News: Copyright, How To Read the Network News, Installation guide,
How to use Usenet Effectively, Usenet Messages standard
2. C News: Installation, The Interface Between C News and the Outside
World
3. Elm: User guide, Reference guide, Config guide, Alias Users guide,
Filter System guide, Forms Mode Guide
4. GNU: gnu-cpp, gnu-cc, gnu-gdb, gnu-make gnu-tar
5. Pcomm: Pcomm Reference Manual
6. RCS: Design paper, Functions of RCS
This was all printed using eroff (a third party DWB package for 386/ix that
includes HPlaserjet and postscript support) on a Panasonic Laser Partner.
The final print was made on 60# paper which should hold up quite well under
heavy usage.
The cash discount price, including shipping, is as follows:
Virginia Continental Hawii/Alaska
US Canada
Manual set $42.60 $41.00 $46.50
Manual set with binders $55.64 $53.50 $59.00
Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not
making any profit on the deal.
Pricing outside of North America will be $35.50 for the manuals, $12.00
for the binders, plus applicable shipping/handling. Send me a message
telling me where you are and I will respond with the costs. Please note
that all payments must be in US dollars.
The cash price includes a 3 % discount, so the credit card pricing will be
3% higher. COD orders will also be accepted. The COD charge is $5.00.
To order a copy:
Send a check, money order, whatever to
Virtual Technologies Inc.
46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling VA 22170.
Make sure you include the following:
1. the check/money order made out to Virtual Technologies
2. Your street address (UPS will not deliver to a pobox)
3. Your uucp mail address in case I need to get in touch
with you.
For credit card orders:
call: (703) 430-9247 and have the following information available:
1. your credit card number
2. expiration date
3. Home phone number
4. Street address and billing address
5. Your uucp mail address.
You can also snail-mail all that info to our address. Email
credit card orders will not be accepted.
--
Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc.,
uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling, VA 22170 cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (09/07/90)
This is the monthly posting announcing the availability of printed manuals
for many of the software packages available via USENET.
* I have added shipping costs for several locations outside North America. *
* If your location is not listed send me email & I will let you know what *
* the costs are. *
For those of you whom would like to get printed documents for many of the
software packages available via USENET, I have put together a troff formatted
8 1/2 x 5 1/2 manual set containing all of the following:
Manual 1: The user's/programmer's reference Manual (416 pages)
1. Introduction and permuted index (16 pages)
2. The following manual pages: (400 pages)
a2p.1 cpr.1 listalias.1 perl.1 rnmail.1
afio.1 diffc.1 matches.1 pnews.1 rz.1
answer.1 diskhog.1 mcc.1 postnews.1 s2p.1
autoreply.1 dviselect.1 merge.1 printmail.1 sz.1
btoa.1 elm.1 messages.1 rcs-intro.1 texi2roff.1
bytesplit.1 fastmail.1 minirb.1 rcs.1 undump.1
cdecl.1 filter.1 modem_break.1 rcsclean.1 vnews.1
cfman.1 frm.1 mush.1 rcsdiff.1 waitfor.1
checkalias.1 gcc.1 newalias.1 rcsfreeze.1 which.1
checknews.1 grep.1 newmail.1 rcsmerge.1 wnewmail.1
ci.1 ident.1 newsetup.1 readmsg.1 zcmp.1
co.1 inews.1 newsgroups.1 readnews.1 zless.1
compress.1 less.1 patch.1 rlog.1 zmore.1
compressdir.1 lesskey.1 pcomm.1 rn.1
ftw.3 getdate.3 scanargs.3 scandir.3
news-b.5 news.5 newsrc.5 rcsfile.5
mn.7
dcheck.8 inews.8 nohog.8 recnews.8 sendnews.8
expire-b.8 newsaux.8 pathalias.8 relaynews.8 uurec.8
expire.8 newsbatch.8 pexpire-b.8 rnews.8
fsanalyze.8 newsmail.8 pexpire.8 sendbatch.8
Manual 2: The user's/programmer's reference guide (596 pages)
1. B News: Copyright, How To Read the Network News, Installation guide,
How to use Usenet Effectively, Usenet Messages standard
2. C News: Installation, The Interface Between C News and the Outside
World
3. Elm: User guide, Reference guide, Config guide, Alias Users guide,
Filter System guide, Forms Mode Guide
4. GNU: gnu-cpp, gnu-cc, gnu-gdb, gnu-make gnu-tar
5. Pcomm: Pcomm Reference Manual
6. RCS: Design paper, Functions of RCS
This was all printed using eroff (a third party DWB package for 386/ix that
includes HPlaserjet and postscript support) on a Panasonic Laser Partner.
The final print was made on 60# paper which should hold up quite well under
heavy usage.
The cash discount price, including shipping, is as follows:
Virginia Continental Hawii/Alaska
US Canada
Manual set $42.60 $41.00 $46.50
Manual set with binders $55.64 $53.50 $59.00
Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not
making any profit on the deal.
Pricing outside of North America will be $35.50 for the manuals, $12.00
for the binders, plus applicable shipping/handling. Send me a message
telling me where you are and I will respond with the costs. Please note
that all payments must be in US dollars.
The cash price includes a 3 % discount, so the credit card pricing will be
3% higher. COD orders will also be accepted. The COD charge is $5.00.
To order a copy:
Send a check, money order, whatever to
Virtual Technologies Inc.
46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling VA 22170.
Make sure you include the following:
1. the check/money order made out to Virtual Technologies
2. Your street address (UPS will not deliver to a pobox)
3. Your uucp mail address in case I need to get in touch
with you.
For credit card orders:
call: (703) 430-9247 and have the following information available:
1. your credit card number
2. expiration date
3. Home phone number
4. Street address and billing address
5. Your uucp mail address.
You can also snail-mail all that info to our address. Email
credit card orders will not be accepted.
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Sample SHIPPING costs for overseas shipments
manuals without binders manuals with binders
Country Surface Air Surface Air
Finland $10.00(45.50) $30.00(65.50) $15.00(62.50) $46.00( 93.50)
England 7.00(42.50) 24.00(59.50) 9.00(56.50) 39.00( 86.50)
W. Germany 10.00(45.50) 26.00(61.50) 15.00(62.50) 38.00( 85.50)
Sweden 10.00(45.50) 30.00(65.50) 15.00(62.50) 46.00( 93.50)
Japan 10.00(45.50) 35.00(70.50) 15.00(62.50) 54.00(101.50)
New Zealand 10.00(45.50) 30.00(65.50) 15.00(62.50) 46.00( 93.50)
All costs are in $US. Number in parenthesis is the total cost including
shipping.
--
Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc.,
uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling, VA 22170 jliu@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Joe Liu) (09/10/90)
In article <1990Sep06.215045.25117@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: ...... >Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not >making any profit on the deal. Suggestion #1, Won't it be more convient for everyone who wants the docs to be able to fetch them from some ftp site if you put them there ? That way, you don't waste all your time and effort to print, bind and mail them while the users don't have to wait. They can print out the portions they need when they need them. Suggestion #2, you are not making any profit, while by addvertising on 10 or so groups world wide, you are costing someone some real money, and your customers are sending out some real $50 for each order. This then is not the thing worthy to do, is it ? To make the world turn, bussiness or individuals have to make profits, one way or another. And I sincerely hope you do. Otherwise, I suggest you go back to suggestion #1n Joe