mrt@oregon.uoregon.edu (Michelle Thibault) (08/16/89)
Hi everyone! I know that some of this has been discussed previously in this newsgroup, but maybe someone would be good enough to give me some information. We're running version 5.7 with VMS 5.0-2 and it has recently become an issue to make "private" newsgroups to replace a local conferencing system we are currently using. Now, I've explored the SET NEWSGROUP/RESTRICT=MEMBERS and SET ACCESS commands, but I have a few questions: * The documentation claims that using the SET NEWSGROUP command with ADD/DELETE/... MEMBER is "recommended" instead of using ACLs (SET ACCESS), but is there anyway to make an entire UIC group a member without using ACLs? Also, how can one see who are members of a given newsgroup?? SHOW MEMBER requires that a username is given, so do you just have to type the ACCESS.NEWS file for that information, or is there a way to see it from inside news? * Also, is there any code in the later versions to prohibit unregistered users from reading these newsgroups? Or even knowing of their existence. (This includes over the network, as we have several sites which access news remotely.) Is anybody else using restricted newsgroups? Is there interest in not letting non-members have (read) access to these groups? I'm willing to find the latest version of news (5.9?) and write the code to deal with these issues, because we need them here, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel if somebody else has done this already. ;-) Also, it would be nice to hear if other people have ideas about this and could use it. It's been suggested that I add a bitmask to the newgroup information file for each newsgroup, which specifies if the group is restricted and whether it's by username or UIC. Any suggestions/ideas would be most welcome! Send them to me via e-mail and I'll summarize for the group if there's enough interest. Thanks a lot! Michelle p.s. I'm fairly certain that there was discussion of restricted groups not too long ago, but I can't find any references. If anybody can point me at them (or tell me if they're relevant), I'd really appreciate it! ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michelle R. Thibault INTERNET: mrt@oregon.cc.uoregon.edu Networks Programmer (& grad student) BITNET: mrt@oregon Univ. of Oregon, Computing Center ** I don't claim anything, so why Eugene, Oregon 97401 should I have a disclaimer...? ** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
mrt@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU (Michelle R. Thibault) (08/18/89)
Sorry if anybody's seen this already, but I don't seem to be getting any
response and it would appear that it's not getting out. ;-)
Thanks.
-- Michelle
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Hi everyone!
I know that some of this has been discussed previously in this
newsgroup, but maybe someone would be good enough to give me some
information.
We're running version 5.7 with VMS 5.0-2 and it has recently become an
issue to make "private" newsgroups to replace a local conferencing
system we are currently using.
Now, I've explored the SET NEWSGROUP/RESTRICT=MEMBERS and SET ACCESS
commands, but I have a few questions:
* The documentation claims that using the SET NEWSGROUP command with
ADD/DELETE/... MEMBER is "recommended" instead of using ACLs (SET
ACCESS), but is there anyway to make an entire UIC group a member
without using ACLs? Also, how can one see who are members of a given
newsgroup?? SHOW MEMBER requires that a username is given, so do you
just have to type the ACCESS.NEWS file for that information, or is there
a way to see it from inside news?
* Also, is there any code in the later versions to prohibit
unregistered users from reading these newsgroups? Or even knowing of
their existence. (This includes over the network, as we have several
sites which access news remotely.)
Is anybody else using restricted newsgroups? Is there interest in
not letting non-members have (read) access to these groups?
I'm willing to find the latest version of news (5.9?) and write the
code to deal with these issues, because we need them here, but I don't
want to re-invent the wheel if somebody else has done this already. ;-)
Also, it would be nice to hear if other people have ideas about this and
could use it.
It's been suggested that I add a bitmask to the newgroup information
file for each newsgroup, which specifies if the group is restricted and
whether it's by username or UIC.
Any suggestions/ideas would be most welcome! Send them to me via e-mail
and I'll summarize for the group if there's enough interest.
Thanks a lot!
Michelle
p.s. I'm fairly certain that there was discussion of restricted groups
not too long ago, but I can't find any references. If anybody can point
me at them (or tell me if they're relevant), I'd really appreciate it! ;-)
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