[news.software.anu-news] Usenet vs. VAXnotes

reggers@UWOVAX.UWO.CA (Reg Quinton) (09/27/89)

On Tue, 26 Sep 89 10:09:02 EST, Geoff Huston
 <munnari!csc.anu.oz.au!gih900%UUNET.UU.NET@VM1.NoDak.EDU> said:
>VAXnotes does not have to rebuild a tree into a list: as all postings within a
>conference occur on the node hosting that conference there is a unique time
>order of postings into the conference. USENET does not have that ability.
     
Well, various  USENET implementations can/will do  this. Imagine a scenario
where everyone accesses uunet.uu.net across the  IPnet using NNTP (say from
rrn, or vnews, or etc.) to interactively read/post articles. The sequential
ordering on this central server would be exactly what our VaxNote colleague
is after.
     
Of course this is  a really dumb  way of doing things  (can you imagine the
6,000+ sites on Usenet interactively banging away on uunet?  It  would kill
the Internet as well as the server).  And, even if the world  where one big
Decnet ;-(  VaxNotes  and Decnet couldn't handle  it either.  This strategy
*is*, however, a reasonable way to do things on a LAN or campus network.
     
The NNTP implementation on ANU/NEWS is quite  a bit different from that for
rrn, vnews, etc.  in as much as they interact  with  the remote server when
you run them and they don't need a local data base (other than a pointer to
the server). With ANU/NEWS  NNTP is only used as  a transport  mechanism to
update a distributed data-base (well not quite  but the point  is there are
nightly   runs  required to  synchronize   two data  bases  -- these  other
implementations don't do that at all).
     
There are, of course, Usenet implementations for Vax/VMS  which use NNTP to
interact with a remote server (typically a Unix machine) that don't require
a local data base, synchronization, etc. as is  the  case  for ANU/NEWS but
these are going to require that you have an IPnet implementation.