GAVRON@LAMPF.BITNET (Ehud Gavron@dac.lanl.gov, eg@lanl.gov, gavron@lampf) (10/14/89)
Several times our feed to the outside world died. We use the CMU-TEK tcp/ip NNTP server. What had happenned was that (mysteriously) the [newsmgr.cmutcp_nntp] directory had totally vanished. Since this is the directory the .IDS files are generated in, no postings could occur. It turns out that News while executing a SKIM command attempts to remove all empty directories -- including *managerial* directories, in an attempt to remove empty newsgroup space. Solution: If it ignored the [news.news_dist],news_source, news_docs, news_build and news_manager directories that would be really neat. Workaround: Set all directory files to o:rwe,s:rwe. That way, unless you give News BYPASS priv, it fails to delete the directory (error shows up in the log file, which is how I found out). -- forewarned == "''f$trnlnm("forearmed")' " Ehud Gavron, sys mgr gavron@lampf.bitnet gavron@dac.lanl.gov (mx record so cmu can't send to it) eg@lanl.gov (a record.)
sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (10/15/89)
In article <ANU-NEWS%89101401432822@NDSUVM1>, "Ehud Gavron@dac.lanl.gov, eg@lanl.gov, gavron@lampf" <GAVRON@LAMPF.BITNET> writes: > Solution: If it ignored the [news.news_dist],news_source, > news_docs, news_build and news_manager directories that > would be really neat. > > Workaround: Set all directory files to o:rwe,s:rwe. That way, > unless you give News BYPASS priv, it fails to delete the > directory (error shows up in the log file, which is how I > found out). A better solution to this type of problem is to not have the NEWS_DEVICE and NEWS_ROOT logicals point to the top level directory in the news account. I have things set up as follows: NEWSMGR | NEWS_DIST NEWS_V59_SRC NEWS_SRC NEWS_DATA NEWS_MGR ... and NEWS_DEVICE and NEWS_ROOT point to [NEWSMGR.NEWS_DATA]. The only directories under NEWS_DATA are the group directories. A NEWS SKIM only looks under NEWS_DATA and never sees the NEWS_DIST, etc, directories. All of the [.IHAVE_*] directories are under [NEWSMGR.NEWS_MGR]. -- USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045 E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444 "The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are composed entirely of lost airline luggage." -- Mark Russell