FUCHS%EMBL.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Rainer Fuchs (EMBL)) (09/26/89)
I would like to obtain a copy of the latest ANU-News version 5.9 but
we cannot ftp from our site. Perhaps someone else in Europe could post
me the source codes etc. ?!
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ben@vmsa.technion.ac.IL (Ben Pashkoff) (10/13/89)
In article <ANU-NEWS%89092602480764@NDSUVM1>, FUCHS%EMBL.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Rainer Fuchs (EMBL)) writes: > I would like to obtain a copy of the latest ANU-News version 5.9 but > we cannot ftp from our site. Perhaps someone else in Europe could post > me the source codes etc. ?! I have the same problem, if someone would send me an address, I would even ship a tape! Afterwards I am willing to send tapes through Europe as necessary. -- ________________________________________________________________________ | | | Ben Pashkoff BEN@VMSA.TECHNION.AC.IL | | BEN@TECHMAX.BITNET | | BEN@TECHUNIX.BITNET | | VAX/VMS Systems | | Computer Center | | Technion IIT Phone:(972)-4-292176 | | Haifa, Israel 32000 FAX: (972)-4-221581 | |______________________________________________________________________|
sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (10/14/89)
In article <318@vmsa.technion.ac.il>, ben@vmsa.technion.ac.IL (Ben Pashkoff) writes: > In article <ANU-NEWS%89092602480764@NDSUVM1>, FUCHS%EMBL.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU > (Rainer Fuchs (EMBL)) writes: >> I would like to obtain a copy of the latest ANU-News version 5.9 but >> we cannot ftp from our site. Perhaps someone else in Europe could post >> me the source codes etc. ?! > I have the same problem, if someone would send me an address, I would even > ship a tape! Afterwards I am willing to send tapes through Europe as > necessary. There are several methods we could use to get V5.9 to those who don't have ftp access. I would be happy to make a VMS SHARE file of the source and mail it out. WARNING: It will be about 40-50 parts. I can also create a MFTU file of the Backup save set and mail that. I have a program that will re-assemble the parts (73 of them if I remember correctly). You will need MFTU (which I can send you) and my program to put things back together. I have done this in the past and it seems to work reasonably well. If I ever get some free time I am going to contact the postmaster at uunet and see if they will update their version to V5.9 (they currently have V5.4 available). That should take care of the uucp only sites. You can also send me a 9 track tape, along with enough US postage to return it to you. I have never actually mailed a package internationally, so I don't know what problems there might be with customs, etc. -- USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045 E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444 "The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are composed entirely of lost airline luggage." -- Mark Russell
sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (10/17/89)
In article <ANU-NEWS%89101708573420@NDSUVM1>, Eckart Meyer <I7100501@DBSTU1.BITNET> writes: > Why couldn't ANU News simply be available through one of the > BITNET Servers??????? One problem with this is the size of the ANU News distribution. Just the source files for Version 5.9 are about 2000 blocks, or about a megabyte. Since the maximum size file allow for transfer via BITNET is 300K, the posting would have to be split into parts. In fact, many mailers refuse to send things larger than 50K or 100K. If you split the V5.9 source up into enough parts that you can be reasonably sure that it will make it past all these mailers, you end up with 24 parts, just for the source. The documentation would take about the same number. I intend to put up a mail server here at KU sometime in the near future, and I will probably make ANU News available, but I don't think I will get many takers. Most of the people I talk to would rather send me a tape than deal with the multiple part mail messages. Another problem with the mailserver concept is related to how the uucp network is implemented. It is basically a "store and forward" mailing system that uses public telephone lines for its transmission medium. Now the phone company is unreasonable, and generaly wants money for using its lines. Sending ANU News V5.9 sources to a uucp site would mean that several sites along the way would have to pay for about a megabyte of phone time as they passed the message along. At least when I send something by hand I can route it to save as much money as possible. I doubt that an automatic mailer could do as well. You seem to be assuming that putting News on a server would mean that no one would have to do anything to get it distributed. Unfortunatly, that is not the case. Kuhub is a fairly well connected machine, being on both the internet and BITNET, but about 10% of my mail bounces for one reason or another. This means that the maintainer of the mail server would have to watch for bounce messages for the server and process them by hand. Given the relatively few requests for distributing ANU News via mail, it seems easier to do as I have been doing and just sending it out when someone requests it. -- USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045 E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444 "The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are composed entirely of lost airline luggage." -- Mark Russell
I7100501@DBSTU1.BITNET (Eckart Meyer) (10/18/89)
Why couldn't ANU News simply be available through one of the
BITNET Servers???????
There are LOT'S of servers around the world (not only BITNET) accessible
through simple MAIL requests (sending a Mail containing a "file request").
The advantage for you maintainers (thousand thanks to Geoff Huston!!)
is that you only have to put into that archive.
I really wonder why this has not be done until now...
-- Eckart
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