"May we be forgiving of our faults and tolerant of our differences."<SEAN@CLARKU.BITNET> (06/16/91)
Help! I have been trying to set up NEWS for some time with
no success. I was using NEWS for a while as a diskless
client, reading NEWS off a remote site via TCP (we use
DEC's UCX V1.3). Everything worked fine. However, I need
to stop using the remote site's disks to read news, so I
have to set up a local NEWS database on one of our nodes
and then read NEWS via DECNET from our other nodes.
The problem is that I am getting two distinct error messages
which I have included below. I have supplied in this message
as much information as I could think of; please let me know
directly if there is anything else you need to know.
Since my problem may be very specific, please send me mail
directly. I will sumarize for everyone once I have resolved
the problem. In advance, thanks for any help!
Sean.
P.S.
I compiled NEWS using UCXSOCKETS. NNTP_XFER
and NNTP_XMIT work fine, so I can set up the local
NEWS database fine. The problem is that I cannot
access NEWS over DECNET from the other nodes.
Network configuration:
---------------------
+--------------+
| NIC.NEAR.NET |
+--------------+
/
/\/ 56Kb leased line
/
+--------+
| Cisco |
| router |
+--------+
|
| EtherNET \
--------+---------------+----+----------+---------------+----
\ | | | |
| | | |
+-----+ +----+ +-----+ +----+
|KUKLA| |FRAN| |OLLIE| |JACK|
+-----+ +----+ +-----+ +----+
JACK will maintain the NEWS database (i.e., this is the node
that will execute NNTP_XFER nightly to retrieve NEWS items
from NIC.NEAR.NET).
KUKLA, FRAN & OLLIE will read NEWS over DECNET
With NNTP as object 0 on both OLLIE & JACK:
------------------------------------------
*** NOTE: I have tried defining NNTP as object 197 as indicated in ***
*** the included document NEWS_DEVICE:[NEWS_DOC]NNTP_DECNET.TXT. ***
*** I get the same results. ***
OLLIE's Object Volatile Summary as of 15-JUN-1991 19:43:43
Object Number File/PID User Id Password
NNTP 0 NEWS_MANAGER:NNTP_DEC.EXE NNTP$SERVER
JACK's Object Volatile Summary as of 15-JUN-1991 20:37:00
Object Number File/PID User Id Password
NNTP 0 NEWS_MANAGER:NNTP_DEC.EXE NNTP$SERVER
$ nntp_client
Node: jack
Channel (DECNET, UCXtcp)? [DECNET]:
Decnet NNTP Objects are commonly of the form:
TASK=NNTP used by most VMS NNTP server implementations
NNTP= used by Ultrix NNTP servers
NEWS= used by some VMS NNTP server implementations
Decnet Object string? [TASK=NNTP] :
Use DECnet stream input calls (normally only with Ultrix NNTP server)? [N]:
%SYSTEM-F-LINKEXIT, network partner exited
DECNET (NCP) gurus: I have not seen ANY NCP error messages
at all. I have seen no timeouts or
circuit/line problems at any time.
$ nntp_client
Node: jack
Channel (DECNET, UCXtcp)? [DECNET]:
Decnet NNTP Objects are commonly of the form:
TASK=NNTP used by most VMS NNTP server implementations
NNTP= used by Ultrix NNTP servers
NEWS= used by some VMS NNTP server implementations
Decnet Object string? [TASK=NNTP] :
Use DECnet stream input calls (normally only with Ultrix NNTP server)? [N]:
recv: non-translatable vms error code: 0x13C, vms message:
%system-f-ivchan, invalid i/o channel
*** NOTE: I get the same error messages if I try to connect ***
*** from OLLIE to JACK than if I try to connect from JACK to JACK ***
OLLIE's NEWS logical names:
---------------------
(LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
"NEWS_MANAGER" = "LOLA$DUA11:[APPL0.NEWS.NEWSMGR]"
JACK's NEWS logical names:
--------------------
(LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
"NEWSMAIL" = "NEWSMGR"
"NEWS_ADDRESS" = "JACK.CLARKU.EDU"
"NEWS_DEVICE" = "LOLA$DUA11:[APPL0.NEWS.]"
"NEWS_GMT_OFFSET" = "-5"
"NEWS_HELPLIB" = "NEWS_ROOT:NEWS.HLB"
"NEWS_MANAGER" = "LOLA$DUA11:[APPL0.NEWS.NEWSMGR]"
"NEWS_MANAGER_DEV" = "NEWS_DEVICE:[NEWSMGR.]"
"NEWS_MGR_ID" = "NEWSMGR_ID"
"NEWS_NNTP_LOG" = "NEWS_MANAGER:NNTP_SERVER.LOG"
"NEWS_NNTP_PROTOCOL" = "UCX"
"NEWS_NNTP_SERVER" = "NIC.NEAR.NET"
"NEWS_NODE" = "JACK"
"NEWS_ORGANISATION" = "Clark University"
"NEWS_ROOT" = "LOLA$DUA11:[APPL0.NEWS]"
"NEWS_TIMEZONE" = "EST"
"NNTP_DISK" = "LOLA$DUA11:"
"NNTP_DISK_DANGER" = "50000"
"NNTP_SCRATCH" = "NEWS_DEVICE:[NNTP_SCRATCH]"
"RNEWS" = "NEWSMGR"
"USENET" = "NEWSMGR"
NNTP$SERVER account:
-------------------
Username: NNTP$SERVER Owner: NNTP$SERVER default
Account: DECNET UIC: [376,377] ([NNTP$SERVER])
CLI: DCL Tables:
Default: NEWS_ROOT:[NNTP$SERVER]
LGICMD: NL:
Flags: DisCtlY DefCLI
Primary days: Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun
Secondary days:
Primary 000000000011111111112222 Secondary 000000000011111111112222
Day Hours 012345678901234567890123 Day Hours 012345678901234567890123
Network: ##### Full access ###### ##### Full access ######
Batch: ##### Full access ###### ##### Full access ######
Local: ----- No access ------ ----- No access ------
Dialup: ----- No access ------ ----- No access ------
Remote: ----- No access ------ ----- No access ------
Expiration: (none) Pwdminimum: 6 Login Fails: 0
Pwdlifetime: (none) Pwdchange: 7-JUN-1991 01:26
Last Login: (none) (interactive), 13-JUN-1991 10:33 (non-interactive)
Maxjobs: 3 Fillm: 100 Bytlm: 10000
Maxacctjobs: 0 Shrfillm: 0 Pbytlm: 0
Maxdetach: 1 BIOlm: 18 JTquota: 1536
Prclm: 2 DIOlm: 18 WSdef: 512
Prio: 4 ASTlm: 24 WSquo: 1024
Queprio: 0 TQElm: 10 WSextent: 1536
CPU: (none) Enqlm: 100 Pgflquo: 20000
Authorized Privileges:
TMPMBX EXQUOTA NETMBX SYSPRV
Default Privileges:
TMPMBX EXQUOTA NETMBX SYSPRV
Identifier Value Attributes
NEWSMGR_ID %X800100C0ake@dayton.saic.com (Earle Ake) (06/18/91)
In article <EE3E129B20406735@vax.clarku.edu>, SEAN@CLARKU.BITNET (May we be forgiving of our faults and tolerant of our differences.) writes: > OLLIE's Object Volatile Summary as of 15-JUN-1991 19:43:43 > > Object Number File/PID User Id Password > > NNTP 0 NEWS_MANAGER:NNTP_DEC.EXE NNTP$SERVER > > > JACK's Object Volatile Summary as of 15-JUN-1991 20:37:00 > > Object Number File/PID User Id Password > > NNTP 0 NEWS_MANAGER:NNTP_DEC.EXE NNTP$SERVER > > $ nntp_client > Node: jack > Channel (DECNET, UCXtcp)? [DECNET]: > Decnet NNTP Objects are commonly of the form: > TASK=NNTP used by most VMS NNTP server implementations > NNTP= used by Ultrix NNTP servers > NEWS= used by some VMS NNTP server implementations > Decnet Object string? [TASK=NNTP] : > Use DECnet stream input calls (normally only with Ultrix NNTP server)? [N]: > %SYSTEM-F-LINKEXIT, network partner exited > > DECNET (NCP) gurus: I have not seen ANY NCP error messages > at all. I have seen no timeouts or > circuit/line problems at any time. If in fact nntp$server is getting logged in, then there should be a netserver.log file in the NEWS_ROOT:[NNTP$SERVER] directory. Check that to see what might be happening. I have the NNTP_DEC.EXE installed as: $ install add news_root:nntp_dec/priv=(sysprv,syslck) exit I have a version working just fine. -Earle _____________________________________________________________________________ ____ ____ ___ Earle Ake /___ /___/ / / Science Applications International Corporation ____// / / /__ Dayton, Ohio ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet: ake@dayton.saic.com uucp: dayvb!ake SPAN: 28284::ake
cctr127@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Jason Haar, NEWS Manager) (06/18/91)
In article <EE3E129B20406735@vax.clarku.edu>, "May we be forgiving of our faults and tolerant of our differences."<SEAN@CLARKU.BITNET> writes: > Help! I have been trying to set up NEWS for some time with > no success. I was using NEWS for a while as a diskless > client, reading NEWS off a remote site via TCP (we use > DEC's UCX V1.3). Everything worked fine. However, I need > to stop using the remote site's disks to read news, so I > have to set up a local NEWS database on one of our nodes > and then read NEWS via DECNET from our other nodes. > > > NNTP$SERVER account: > ------------------- > > Username: NNTP$SERVER Owner: NNTP$SERVER default > Account: DECNET UIC: [376,377] ([NNTP$SERVER]) > CLI: DCL Tables: > Default: NEWS_ROOT:[NNTP$SERVER] > LGICMD: NL: > Flags: DisCtlY DefCLI Where is NNTP_DEC.EXE run?? I think you'll find that NNTP_DEC.EXE needs to be put in the NNTP$SERVER account, and a LOGIN.COM created that runs it. You'll then need to change the LGICMD line under AUTHORIZE to LOGIN Hope that helps -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Haar. Network Consultant, CSC, University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand. Email j.haar@csc.canterbury.ac.nz Ph: 64 3 642336 Fax: 64 3 642999 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------