[alt.religion.computers] No need for FSF?

gumby@Gang-of-Four.Stanford.EDU (David Vinayak Wallace) (12/23/89)

   Date: 22 Dec 89 05:16:08 GMT
   From: jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone)

						If FSF and the GPL had
   been around when Unix was being developed, then granted, Unix source
   would be available and there would be free versions of a generally
   nifty os for as many computer types as we could find geeks to port it
   to.  However, if this had been true, then the FSF would have no reason
   to exist - the GNU project would be purposeless.  Remember - GNU's Not
   Unix - it's a replacement for Unix.  

Please do not be so `ethnocentic' as to presume that unix is the be
all and end all of software, and hence that the FSF need be
coextensional with the GNU project.  Currently the FSF has only one
project, GNU, but need that be true?  Unix is unfortunately very
popular; hence it's a natural piece of software to liberate.

One could imagine a strong FSF beginning a project on, say, a
distributed networking environment.  They are currently rather
oriented towards practical stuff, but research isn't inconsistent with
their charter.

jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone) (12/23/89)

gumby@Gang-of-Four.Stanford.EDU (David Vinayak Wallace) writes:
> Please do not be so `ethnocentic' as to presume that unix is the be
> all and end all of software, and hence that the FSF need be
> coextensional with the GNU project.  Currently the FSF has only one
> project, GNU, but need that be true?  Unix is unfortunately very
> popular; hence it's a natural piece of software to liberate.

I do not presume that unix is the end and be all of software.  That's
why i siad "a generally nifty os".  The FSF is free to pursue as many
projects as they can allocate time/resources for.  However, had things
been different with Unix, it is less likely that the FSF would exist
today - after all, i believe that the FSF is there to provide an
alternative, not to enforce a standard for everyone.  If they are
planning on world-domination(tm), then my claim is invalid.

> One could imagine a strong FSF beginning a project on, say, a
> distributed networking environment.  They are currently rather
> oriented towards practical stuff, but research isn't inconsistent with
> their charter.

No one claimed that it was.  Just like no one claimed unix was the end
all be all of software.  Simply put, howver, the FSF literature states
that UNIX was chosen to be the os due to its immense popularity among
academia, etc.  therefore, if a GNU-like unix already existed, who,
other than the founders of FSF, is to say whether or not it would
exist today.


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