davids@ucscf.UCSC.EDU (Dave Schreiber) (11/30/90)
In article <16321@brahms.udel.edu> scream@brahms.udel.edu (Darren Amato) writes: >I know that this topic has been hacked over and over again, And I'm not >one to "beat a dead horse" but, There is NO WAY that the Amiga 3000 is >a better or more flexible computer than the Next. > >I just came from a Next presentation on campus and WOW! > >The only thing that the Amiga 3000 has over the new Next system is >color. > > > scream Flame fodder :-) from the Amiga 3000UX "Short Take" in the Dec. Byte: "...when you put it [an A3000UX] beside a NeXT or a Macintosh or a 386 workstation, the differences are in favor of the Amiga." Personally, I think the NeXT's a really neat machine, with a lot of good ideas that should be incorporated into the Amiga (many of which have been in Kickstart 2.0 & Amiga Unix). As to whether it is "better" that's something that has to be decided by the purchaser. For me, I'd have to say that my A3000 is better because it satisfies my computing needs better than a NeXT could, and at a lower cost. Followups directed to alt.religion.computers, where they belong (well, hopefully; I've never redirected followups before, and I'm not 100% sure that I got it right). -- Dave Schreiber davids@slugmail.ucsc.edu or (but not both) davids@ucscb.ucsc.edu "It was fun learning about logic, but I don't see where or when I will ever use it again."
gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) (12/08/90)
First things first. I'm going to try to shift this to alt.religion.computers In article <23853@grebyn.com> ckp@grebyn.UUCP (Checkpoint Technologies) writes: >So where's the NeXTstation's high-performance multi-master 32-bit >autoconfig(tm) bus? Where's it's NTSC compatible video output? Where's Well, they have NTSC compatability in their NeXTDimension board. You don't really get NTSC compatability with a regular Amiga anyways. You're always going to have to add a genlock and/or some other video stuff to make it do it anyways. This is, of course, true of NeXTs too. >it's *second* floppy drive bay? You all must find one floppy drive (or >zero for those with the optical disk) pretty limiting. Why is that? You never use the floppy for much other than installing new software releases or backing up. >As for options, where's your Mac emulator? Where's your MS-DOS >bridgecard? I've heard something about a Mac emulator for it. MS-DOS is coming in the form of Soft-PC. >The A3000UX, with System V release 4, is Posix-compliant, which opens >the door to federal procurement nicely. How does Mach fare? (Oh, I >forgot - Jobs claims the OS isn't important to a purchaser, it's just >a base for applications, which are important. A standard OS doesn't >matter.) Mach isn't an OS. Mach is a kernel. The NeXTs run BSD. There are a TON of BSD applications out there. Same with Sys V. Mach does provide for many nice features though. >OK, now let's all get it out in the open. We both (NeXTers and Amigans) were >attracted to a machine which seemed to offer better performance and >features than the accepted institution, the PC and Mac. We both believe >we've chosen the best machine for the price. We become insecure enough >when we see how few people have made the same choice, and so are prone >to defensiveness. (No one with a PC needs to defend or justify it.) >It is more unnerving when we see others who have made a different >choice for the same reasons - superior price, performance, and features. >So people, beleive me when I tell you, it's possible for us *all* to >have made the right choice! Whether we chose a NeXT, Amiga, Atari ST, >PC clone (ugh), or Timex Sinclair (OK, OK, I'm just making a point), >it was a valid and correct choice for the reasons we chose it. So all >of you go home, relax, and have a happy holiday. Absolutely agree with the above stuff. I love Amigas, and I love NeXTs. See ya, Ralph Ralph Seguin gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu 536 South Forest Apt. #915 gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48104 (313) 662-4805
eddjp@edi386.UUCP ( Dewey Paciaffi ) (12/10/90)
In article <1990Dec8.043729.26041@engin.umich.edu> gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes: -First things first. I'm going to try to shift this to alt.religion.computers - -In article <23853@grebyn.com> ckp@grebyn.UUCP (Checkpoint Technologies) writes: - ->it's *second* floppy drive bay? You all must find one floppy drive (or ->zero for those with the optical disk) pretty limiting. - -Why is that? You never use the floppy for much other than installing new -software releases or backing up. Gee, it must be nice to never have to copy a set of floppies... ;-) -- Dewey Paciaffi ...!uunet!edi386!eddjp