jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens) (04/16/91)
(Note the Followup-To. Religious bashing of windows vs. terminals belongs in alt.religion.computers, not here. Edit the Newsgroups to direct followups to this newsgroup only if you want to reply to the end of my posting, which discusses shared libraries.) In article <97@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp>, mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) writes: |> I have been using character terminals for many years, because I don't |> think window system gives effecient developping environment. I often |> irretated to see someone using window system ineffeciently. I work both on an X display and on a vt240. The amount of work I get done sitting in front of the X display is easily orders of magnitude greater than whta I get done when working on the vt240 (conceded, the vt240 is usually at 2400 baud, but I don't think that's the limiting factor, because I've experienced similar ratios when working on a high-speed tty display). I think it is absurd to claim that it is impossible for a properly designed window-oriented setup to increase efficiency, and I think it is almost as absurd to claim that it is not possible to set up a properly designed window-oriented setup under X. Sure, X has its problems, I've got no argument with that. However, ignoring for the moment the amount of memory it takes to run X, because I don't think that's really the issue being discussed here and because it's possible to avoid that issue by using X terminals or something like that, to claim that a character terminal is more efficient than an X display strikes me as ludicrous. You can get the same efficiency as a character terminal under X by running one xterm with no window manager. The second you put up another window, it seems to me that the potential "efficiency" has increased. |> Shared library is NO solution. It only moves complexity, unstability |> and ineffeciency of X to UNIX. This, too, strikes me as an unnecessarily broad statement with little basis in fact. X isn't the only thing that uses libraries, and X isn't the only thing that benefits from shared libraries. It is my impression that the Unix industry has, in general, come to agreement on the idea that shared libraries are a good thing, simply because they make more memory available to the user while having little or no negative side-effects. -- Jonathan Kamens USnail: MIT Project Athena 11 Ashford Terrace jik@Athena.MIT.EDU Allston, MA 02134 Office: 617-253-8085 Home: 617-782-0710