[alt.sources.d] Moderation of alt.sources through Mass Annoyance

emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) (03/12/91)

In article <1991Mar11.162930.8008@convex.com> tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) writes:

   At the request of someone in email, I'm posting my rn magic for 
   sending someone an automatic message gently chiding them for 
   their misplaced posting into alt.sources.  

 I think that this is a mistake.

 Much better would be to put more sources in alt.sources, so that
 people learn by example what to expect there, and don't mistakenly ask
 questions.  For instance, if you see sources in some other group,
 repost them into alt.sources.  Or post something of your own!

 Auto-hassling scripts strike me as an unnecessary annoyance likely to
 cause animosity.  better would be to either ignore the posting
 completely , or answer the request by mail as best you can and gently
 chide the user into changing their ways.

--Ed

	

sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) (03/13/91)

I hate form letters (and computer telephone calls and ...) with such a
passion that I'd be likely to mail you 10 copies of it back and then
slap on a mailbox filter to keep you out.

Non-sources in alt.sources aren't welcome, but I don't approve of form
letters as a method. Please find a better way.

Sean

-- 
** Sean Casey  <sean@s.ms.uky.edu>

ruck@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John Ruckstuhl) (03/15/91)

Someone writes:
>I hate form letters (and computer telephone calls and ...) with such a
>passion that I'd be likely to mail you 10 copies of it back and then
>slap on a mailbox filter to keep you out.

Many people claim to dislike form letters.  I am no psychologist, but I
wonder if these people have, without thinking, generalized their
irritation at bulk mailed advertisements and time-wasting telephone
calls to the distinct superset of form letters.

Are such people annoyed by the monthly Church bulletin?  The appointment
reminder from their dentist?
Email replies generated by a "vacation" program?  The automatic
acknowledgements from a moderated newsgroup like comp.dcom.telecom?
How do these people resolve their (assumed) acceptance of newspapers and
trade journals?  Books?  These publications are obviously not
personalized.

Form letters are part of efficient communications.  The two-page form 
letter from a relative at Christmas may be hard to get used to, but it's 
better than the two-line "Merry Christmas", unless you're the
sensitive/easily-offended type (in my opinion).

Of course, I may learn from other points of view during this
discussion.
But now, I believe persons who would be offended by such a form letter
are exactly the set of people who would be offended by a custom letter,
plus (union) the set of people who irrationally claim to dislike form
letters.  And, I believe that most of those offended would claim the
source of the offense was the form nature of the notice (regardless of
the true source of irritation), because that claim is more socially 
acceptable.  Until people realize it's silly.

Argh.  I didn't mean to start a fight.  I don't have time to fight.

Regards,
ruck.
-- 
John R Ruckstuhl, Jr			ruck@alpha.ee.ufl.edu
Dept of Electrical Engineering		ruck@cis.ufl.edu, uflorida!ruck
University of Florida			ruck%sphere@cis.ufl.edu, sphere!ruck