[rec.music.gaffa] The Lost Single

Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (08/10/89)

Really-From: Randall Knowles Smith <rs5o+@andrew.cmu.edu>


OK, now my interest has been piqued.  Why is the "There Goes A Tenner"
single a Lost Single?  Wasn't released?  Wasn't released in America?
Every single copy simultaneously dropped on a cement floor?  Please,
don't drop hints like that and not follow them up!  After all, I'm
pretty sure this hasn't been discussed in at least a year, and, as the
Peter Reich/Cloudbusting controversy shows, a six-month attention span
is about the best one can hope for on the net.  Speaking of which...
(nice segue, huh.  I'm very proud of it myself.)
As stated above, this has been discussed before.  My favorite argument
was IED's, because, unsurprisingly enough, it had the most documentation.
The salient points were, I believe:
Reich was a RESPECTED psychologist around the time of Freud.  His works
in that field were considered very important, at least to other psychologists.
So calling him a simple con-artist or fool has some problems.  Where he got
his interest in Orgone Energy was not explained, as far as I remember, but
apparently there was some strong debate about the fairness of the FDA's
actions.  While I hold Martin Gardner in the highest regard, I feel his
attempts at debunking are a waste of time; people will believe as they
wish, despite massive evidence to the contrary.  (Of course, he may have a
better reason; since I can't solve most of his puzzles, I don't feel entirely
confident disparaging his motives for anything.  He's a smart cookie.)
Calling Reich wrong is strong enough.  Making him malevolent, as some people
seem intent upon (as the FDA did) is unnecessary and, possibly, unfair.
Besides, it's a great song.

On another tack, I was listening to NFE last night, and was wondering about
the people mentioned in "Blow Away (for Bill)."  Does anyone know who
these people are?

Randy Smith
rs5o+@andrew.cmu.edu

Oh yes, go see SARAH McLACHLAN if she comes within a 50 mile radius of
your location.  The concert was AMAZING.  VERY reminiscint of Kate.
Her last song, after being dragged out by an appreciative audience for a
third time, was "My Lagan Love", sung a capella.  Almost as good as seeing
Kate live, which, of course, would be the ultimate experience.

Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (08/10/89)

Really-From: Gary L Dare <gld@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu>

Randy Smith wrote:
>
>Oh yes, go see SARAH McLACHLAN if she comes within a 50 mile radius of
>your location.  The concert was AMAZING.  VERY reminiscint of Kate.
>Her last song, after being dragged out by an appreciative audience for a
>third time, was "My Lagan Love", sung a capella.  Almost as good as seeing
>Kate live, which, of course, would be the ultimate experience.

When Sarah gave a free show at Toronto's Harbourfront at the end of
June, she did one song a capella; I guess this was it!  Also, she and
her band did a knockout version of Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill",
such a personal statement I didn't think anyone would attempt, and a
reggae version of Led Zeppelin's "D'yer Maker"! (-; Really tight band;
I have a crush on the drummer! (-8
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dbk@mimsy.UUCP (Dan Kozak) (08/10/89)

> Really-From: Randall Knowles Smith <rs5o+@andrew.cmu.edu>

> apparently there was some strong debate about the fairness of the FDA's
> actions.  

> Calling Reich wrong is strong enough.  Making him malevolent, as some people
> seem intent upon (as the FDA did) is unnecessary and, possibly, unfair.

Well, the circumstances surrounding Reich's arrest, death and the
banning of his written works are pretty mysterious.  How many other
FDA/EPA violators actually went to jail?  (Unfortunately, I don't have
access to my sources on this right now, and it's been a while since I
read the book, so I can't give more detail without risking a dinner of
shoe leather.  Next time I'm at my folks, I'll dig out my Reich
biography and see what I can find.)

> On another tack, I was listening to NFE last night, and was wondering about
> the people mentioned in "Blow Away (for Bill)."  Does anyone know who
> these people are?

Bill is Bill Duffield, (the lighting man who died in an accident right
at the beginning of the Tour of Life.  The rest are:

Minnie Riperton (? I've been told)
Keith Moon 
Sid Vicious (twice)
Buddy Holly
Sandy Denny
(and in the last verse)
Marc Bolan

All musicians who died premature deaths.

#dan

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#dan

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Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (08/10/89)

Really-From: jsd@gaffa.mit.edu (Jon Drukman)


"There Goes A Tenner" is known as the "lost" single because it was
pretty much abandoned by the record company after its release.
According to reports, EMI never really liked "The Dreaming" (cretins!)
and thought it wasn't "commercial" or "accessible" (their terminology)
or "shitty" (my word) enough for Top 40 Hit Stardom Status, so they
didn't spend a lot of money trying to make it a hit.  This is known
(in the biz) as letting a product "escape." So, they let "The
Dreaming" escape and it still got to #3 or something like that.
Pretty respectable showing, whatever the number was.  Meanwhile, Kate
keeps getting the business oriented shitheads to release singles, and
she makes videos for them, and all this great cover art, and meanwhile
the record company just sort of quietly sends these things out in what
Douglas Adams might call "a huge blaze of No Publicity At All." So,
"There Goes A Tenner" was released quietly, without fanfare, and
probably (I am not sure) vanished without trace, chart-wise.  Of
course, when "Hounds Of Love" was made, EMI got behind it 100% and it
became a phenomenal chartbusting success. 

BTW, for those interested in seeing "the real" Cloudbuster - don't get
too excited.  It's a metal tube pointing up at the sky.  Stick with
the H.R. Giger version.

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cotton@cbnewsi.ATT.COM (carol.jean.swanson) (08/12/89)

Hello fellow Love-Hounds...

Some random drablings:

It's a rainy and dreary Friday in Central NJ. 
But it is a good Friday because today, as I started to 
drive home for lunch,
the local radio station here, WHTG 106.3 Eatontown, 
played KaTe...Not just one song, but a triple play.  And
before KaTe it was Sarah L.  What a power line-up.  And after the
triple play (all from the first album -- yes, Wuthering Heights
was one), the DJ came on and said 'That was a Triple PLay
of Kate Bush.   What a way to start a Friday off.  She has
a new album coming out.  I talked to her new record company..."
(he went on to mention the album was supposed to be
released in April, then this summer, then Sept. and the
current date is Oct.  He finished up quipping 'I'll be an old
man before her next album gets here.' )

Also, I was up in the Finger Lakes Area and heard Kate on the
Cornell Radio Station around 6 pm.  They were playing Babashka
(please forgive the incorrect spelling)

Ears to KaTe on the Radio waves,
CJ Swanson
cjs\@hotlf.UUCP

brianw@microsoft.UUCP (Brian Willoughby) (08/16/89)

In article <12403@eddie.MIT.EDU> Love-Hounds@GAFFA.MIT.EDU writes:
>Really-From: jsd@gaffa.mit.edu (Jon Drukman)
>
>BTW, for those interested in seeing "the real" Cloudbuster - don't get
>too excited.  It's a metal tube pointing up at the sky.  Stick with
>the H.R. Giger version.

Oh! So Giger designed the prop in the video?  Where did you hear about
that (let me guess).  BTW, has anyone seen that book of H.R. Giger's
works, titled "Necronomicon" or "Necromancer" or somesuch?  I haven't
seen it in years, pretty bizarre stuff.  At the time I had the choice
between it and Roger Dean's collection "Views", should have gotten both.

Brian Willoughby
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Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (08/17/89)

Really-From: Alex Ferguson <alex%cs.glasgow.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK>

Gary L Dare writes:
>When Sarah gave a free show at Toronto's Harbourfront at the end of
>June, she did one song a capella; I guess this was it!  Also, she and
>her band did a knockout version of Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill",
>such a personal statement I didn't think anyone would attempt,

Didn't Tom Robinson cover Solsbury Hill live in some kind of TR/PG
joint venture? About the most pressing reason for not covering I can
think of is the difficulty of getting the average rock band to play
something in that time. By all accounts Tom's version was pretty forgettable.
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