[rec.music.gaffa] KT and Danielle Dax

Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (08/15/89)

Really-From: ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi)

Today a DJ on a local college radio station played a few examples
of pairs of songs that were in some way similar to each other.
Sometimes they were actual covers, but usually they just sounded
similar.

One pair he played was Danielle Dax's "Hammerheads" and 
KT's "The Dreaming."  They do have kind of the same rhythm
and droning quality.  The DJ said KT's song came first,
so probably Dax got the idea from her.

If anybody else has heard "Hammerheads" I'd like to see your
comments.

Ed
ed@das.llnl.gov

Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (08/15/89)

Really-From: jsd@gaffa.mit.edu (Jon Drukman)


>Really-From: ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi)
>
>One pair he played was Danielle Dax's "Hammerheads" and 
>KT's "The Dreaming."  They do have kind of the same rhythm
>and droning quality.  The DJ said KT's song came first,
>so probably Dax got the idea from her.

Well, Dax not only got the idea from KT, but she got the rhythm track
as well, because "hammerheads" basically uses the rhythm from "The
Dreaming" pretty explicitly!  It's just sped up, that's all.  No
problem if you're into cutting tape loops on decent reel to reel decks
anyway, which Dax was.  Of course, she could've done it they way I did
it and just sampled the bugger, but this was back when samplers where
much more expensive.  If anybody wants any rhythm tracks isolated,
looped, sped up, mangled and/or otherwise toyed with, drop me a line
and we'll work something out.  I recall posting a message to love-hounds
eons ago where I told IED that 3 hours of nothing but the opening drum
passage from "Sat in Your Lap" would be phenomenally wonderful.  Well,
I did it, and I let it run for hours while I cleaned the apartment up
and boy did my head spin when I shut it off...

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Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (08/15/89)

Really-From: queen@tahoe.unr.edu (Brian Queen)


  I noticed this many moons ago when I had a stereo and
a record colection.  I thought one song was a total
ripoff of the others idea.  I respect both artists but
of course Kate won out, regardless of the facts.

CONROL/central

Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (08/16/89)

Really-From: jsd@gaffa.mit.edu (Jon Drukman)


>Really-From: queen@tahoe.unr.edu (Brian Queen)
>
>  I noticed this many moons ago when I had a stereo and
>a record colection.  I thought one song was a total
>ripoff of the others idea.  I respect both artists but
>of course Kate won out, regardless of the facts.

"facts"?  What "facts" would these be, buddy boy?  In music review,
there ARE no "facts" except the "facts" of who played what instrument,
and whether the horrible farty noise mixed to the extreme left of the
stereo image was placed there on purpose or is in reality just a used
birth control device stuck to your turntable.  IMPO, (in my pompous
opinion), Dax's song has many good things to recommend it, and furthermore,
he said, resorting to the old IED cop-out, you can't really compare them
cos they're apples and oranges.  And don't tell me that having the same
rhythm track makes them comparable, because you could then argue that
Coldcut is the same as Led Zep cos one ripped off the other's drum track.

Anyway, Danielle Dax's song is very exciting for different reasons
than Kate's, so git outta heeeyah!

Another Honky With An Attitude,  (thanks |>ougie boyeeeee)

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Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (08/17/89)

Really-From: tracyr@uunet.uu.net (jane smallberries)


me too, me too--it was the first thing that struck me when
i first heard 'the dreaming' (which was after i had my danielle 
dax tape--better late than never).  thanks ed, for sharing
such interesting observations from college radio stations.

other odds & ends:
got my copy of the meteorological mix of 'the big sky'.  all
i can say is GET THIS NOW IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE IT!  the
drums, the voices, the glory--i listen to it when the house
is empty, and can play it at a volume that shakes the windows.
it's one of the rare times my true, primal, unbridled, congo-queen
self emerges.  try it--you Won't regret it.
only bummer is the other side skips in the beginning of 'under the
ivy'--this seems to be the case for several copies of the album
i tried.

larry, did i thank you for your donation of your own customized copy
of obskurities 2??  where did you find this version of 'hounds
of love'??  i haven't heard this one--it's great!  all the 
"run run run run run run run, honey, run from the hounds of
love"'s--where'd it come from???

one final note to corey:  i'm sending your tape today.  please
accept my apologies for the delay--i seem to have misplaced the
insert containing ied's song listing and notes, so i wanted to
wait 'til i found it so i could send you a complete package.
but i won't wait any longer, as it's where-abouts are still a
mystery.  perhaps another love-hound can xerox the inserts and
send them to you...    

-tracy
uunet!sco!tracyr,
tracyr@sco.com

p.s. will any love-hounds be attending the SCO Forum 89 next week?
i'll be there most of the second half of the week...