[net.lan] low speed LANs

brown@cyclps.DEC (Doug Brown) (05/02/84)

  I've been pondering on a project that I was thinking of building
and would like to have your opinions on its viability.
  What I have in mind is a low speed local area network device for device
control and communications.  Below are the proposed characteristics:
  max speed 19.2 K
  Max nodes 255
  max area 16
  max local objects 16
  max message size 255 bytes
  max local devices 8
  price ~$250 for controller

  IT would be a single board that is highly configurable.  Consisting of 
a line modulator (coax, modem, twisted pair depending on speed), a dedicated
processor with rom control program and a device interface buss.
  The main use would be for hooking up a series of devices in a small local
area with one controlling computer.  Scenarios could be a small business, 
house hold or manufacturing plant.
  Devices for the controller would be swithes, serial lines, a/d, d/a.
  Custom user programs up to 4K in size can be accomodated.
  Hooking the whole thing up would be by tagged modules (a simpleton with a 
screw driver should be able to do it for the very low speeds).
  A simple software interface for custom devices.

  What do you think?  Would it be worth while?

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  |db|					From the depths of DEC land.
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rpw3@fortune.UUCP (05/04/84)

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fortune!rpw3    May  4 01:42:00 1984

Re: 19,200 b/s LAN

Try RS-422 (the versions of the chips with Tri-State outputs).

Rob Warnock

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mikez@hammer.UUCP (05/04/84)

Yes, a board with the suggest specs would be worthwhile.  For about
six months.  <Major silicon stamper> is sampling out a low-speed
version of their chip set that has all the Ethernet/IEEE 802 stuff
and runs on twisted pair, for ~$25 a chip set.  I expect that that's
where the low speed network action will be.

mats@dual.UUCP (Mats Wichmann) (05/06/84)

Whether or not the suggested board is useful depends on its' intended
scope. I doubt whether the computer industry as a whole is going to
embrace the idea, but it might well find a niche somewhere. After all,
a LOT of people are using Corvus' rather awful OMNINET (that was a
personal opinion, folks - and don't bother flaming), and even more
would never consider touching it (like me). Even with its' rather
limited distribution, it would have to be called a successful
project.  I think there is alway going to be room for a well-done,
low-cost LAN scheme.

As to the comment that the `scaled-down-ethernet' chips will be the
way people are going, this is opinion only. My opinion is that that
is NOT the way very many people are going to go. Specifically, I have
already seen the industry go IBM-compatible-crazy several times; I
would be very surprised if much of the development in the LAN area
during the next year or so is not in the IBM-syle net, whenever the
details of that become clear. And then there's always AT&T to consider...
One would *expect* them to try to emerge as a leader in networking,
since this is really in their line of business. Once again, opinions
only.

Anybody else have thoughts on this?

	    Mats Wichmann
	    Dual Systems Corp.
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