Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (10/24/89)
Really-From: Jon Drukman <jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU> >Really-From: ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi) > >Although I really like the album, I have some problems with the >cover. I hope I won't be called a heretic for saying this. You're OK in my book, Suranyi. >Most importantly, there's not enough contrast between the dark >cover and the bronze writing. The title cannot be read from any >distance. No kidding. Do you think it's a lousy printing job, or a bad photo, or what? And the contrast inside the book is terrible! I'm glad IED posted those lyrics so I could laser print them, because the jewel booklet sucks eggs. >Of less importance, every time I look at the cover I get the feeling >that someone who didn't like Kate stuffed a flower in her mouth >in order to shut her up! You've got your importances messed up, but to each his own. How could anyone want to cover up Kate's luscious lips? Just take a look at those babies on the cover of TD or even the TSW single! Of MUCH more importance than any of this crap is the new issue of Melody Maker, with a huge feature on Kate. She's on the cover, and gets their colour pages in the centre. The interview (by Steve Sutherland) is GREAT! One of the best KT interviews I have ever read. It is obvious that Sutherland and Bush hit a vibe early on, and they never let up. KT seems to be having a blast communicating with someone who understands her work _perfectly_. I admit not hating the NME interview as much as IED, but it pales into total insignificance when confronted with the MM one. Besides, I always liked MM better. I urge every love hound to get this paper now!!! I assume someone will transcribe it soon. I would do it, but I haven't much time. -- +---------------------- Is there any ESCAPE from NOISE? ----------------------+ | | |\ | jsd@gaffa.mit.edu | "I like George Bush, but this `kinder, | | \|on |/rukman | jsd@umass.bitnet | gentler' crap is killing us." - D.Trump | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (10/26/89)
Really-From: hplabs!brian@hpfcdj.hp.com (Brian Rauchfuss) / hpfcdj:rec.music.gaffa / Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU / 2:02 pm Oct 23, 1989 / Really-From: drivax!liberato@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (Jimmy Liberato) >Everyone to whom I've shown the cover comments on the "psychotic stare" >(or words to those effect). It certainly is cold. I am one who bought I certainly would not have described that stare as "cold", I would tend towards "intense". "Psychotic"? Your crazy. > Jimmy Liberato ...!amdahl!drivax!liberato ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Smokefoot "... never knowing I could shape my life brian@hpfcbdr.HP.COM like the artist paints his dreams on a canvas." - Minor Detail
liberato@drivax.UUCP (Jimmy Liberato) (11/01/89)
hplabs!brian@hpfcdj.hp.com (Brian Rauchfuss) writes: > ...!amdahl!drivax!liberato (Jimmy Liberato) writes: >>Everyone to whom I've shown the cover comments on the "psychotic stare" >>(or words to those effect). It certainly is cold... >I certainly would not have described that stare as "cold", I would tend >towards "intense". "Psychotic"? You're crazy. Perhaps. The "psychotic" comment was not exactly mine, however. It was an unprompted response from 11 of 16 people unfamiliar with Kate (never heard of her). What do they know anyway. :-) I notice only a cold sterness. The photograph is interesting, however. The sleepy-eyed chubby Kate (circa _The_Dreaming_) I think of as "sensual." My opinion! This is kind of a worthless thread to maintain, anyway. Let's go listen to RT! By the way, has anyone else altered the play order on their "listening tape?" This is the first time I've felt the need to do that. Another good thing: even the reviews that are blazingly incompetent tend to be quite positive. -- Jimmy Liberato ...!amdahl!drivax!liberato
jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (Jon Drukman) (11/02/89)
In article <254DA880.1ECE@drivax.UUCP> drivax!liberato@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (Jimmy Liberato) writes: >heard of her). What do they know anyway. :-) I notice only a cold >sterness. The photograph is interesting, however. The sleepy-eyed >chubby Kate (circa _The_Dreaming_) I think of as "sensual." My opinion! I agree. A strangely un-sensual cover photo for an album called The Sensual World. >By the way, has anyone else altered the play order on their "listening >tape?" This is the first time I've felt the need to do that. You betcha. For my "walking around campus" cassette I programmed "Walk Straight Down The Middle" in place of "Reaching Out" and relegated Reaching Out to the very end of the tape. Basically, I never listen to it, because I usually hit stop and rewind it after This Woman's Work. IED can call me pathetic until he's blue in the face, but Reaching Out is a horrible song. This isn't the first time I've butchered Kate's intentions however. I used to have a half Dreaming, half Hounds Of Love hybrid tape -- sort of like concentrated amazingness. +---------------------- Is there any ESCAPE from NOISE? ----------------------+ | | |\ | jsd@gaffa.mit.edu | "I like George Bush, but this `kinder, | | \|on |/rukman | jsd@umass.bitnet | gentler' crap is killing us." - D.Trump | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
steve@halley.UUCP (Steve Williams) (11/02/89)
In some article or another, Jon (Mr. Irreverent-but-Obviously-Infatuated) Drukman quotes and then writes: >>heard of her). What do they know anyway. :-) I notice only a cold >>sterness. The photograph is interesting, however. The sleepy-eyed >>chubby Kate (circa _The_Dreaming_) I think of as "sensual." My opinion! > >I agree. A strangely un-sensual cover photo for an album called The >Sensual World. > I prefer the TSW CD-single photo myself, but I still don't see what everyone so far has claimed to see in the album cover photo. Kate's eyes overwhelm, of course, but with a child-like look of wonder/innocence, in definite contrast to the content of the songs themselves. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Williams ...!cs.utexas.edu!halley!steve Tandem Computers (512)-244-8252 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CCJS@cc.nu.OZ.AU (James Smith) (11/05/89)
Path: cc!ccjs From: CCJS@cc.nu.oz (James Smith) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: The album's cover + Melody Maker Message-ID: <10976@cc.nu.oz> Date: 5 Nov 89 15:11:37 -1000 References: <8910231757.AA08057@GAFFA.MIT.EDU> <8911011547.AA22155@GAFFA.MIT.EDU> Organization: University of Newcastle Lines: 36 Jon Drukman writes: > You betcha. For my "walking around campus" cassette I programmed > "Walk Straight Down The Middle" in place of "Reaching Out" and > relegated Reaching Out to the very end of the tape. Basically, I > never listen to it, because I usually hit stop and rewind it after > This Woman's Work. IED can call me pathetic until he's blue in the > face, but Reaching Out is a horrible song. Generally I have to listen to Kate's albums two or three times before the beauty of the music starts to sink in. The first few listens sort of form a general background level against which the inherant beauty of the various songs can stand out. I guess the broadness the forest has to sink in before I can start to see the actual trees. I can only remember three of her songs that have actually stood out from the rest of the tracks as being wonderful on first hearing. On _The Dreaming_ it was _Suspended in Gaffa_, it stood out from the rest of the songs, and I had to play it again before I could go on with the album. On _Hounds of Love_, the song that stood out for me was _Waking the Witch_, and on _The Sensual World_ it's _Reaching Out_. For me the song has all the power and intensity of _This Woman's Work_, with an added driving force that makes it just beautiful. In fact, this song, more than any other on the album, is just Kate. How can you say it's horrible? Jim -- James Smith | When a man fell into his anecdotage Computing Centre | it was a sign for him to retire from Newcastle University | the world. ccjs@cc.nu.oz.au | -- Benjamin Disraeli
CCJS@cc.nu.oz (James Smith) (11/06/89)
Jon Drukman writes: > You betcha. For my "walking around campus" cassette I programmed > "Walk Straight Down The Middle" in place of "Reaching Out" and > relegated Reaching Out to the very end of the tape. Basically, I > never listen to it, because I usually hit stop and rewind it after > This Woman's Work. IED can call me pathetic until he's blue in the > face, but Reaching Out is a horrible song. Generally I have to listen to Kate's albums two or three times before the beauty of the music starts to sink in. The first few listens sort of form a general background level against which the inherant beauty of the various songs can stand out. I guess the broadness the forest has to sink in before I can start to see the actual trees. I can only remember three of her songs that have actually stood out from the rest of the tracks as being wonderful on first hearing. On _The Dreaming_ it was _Suspended in Gaffa_, it stood out from the rest of the songs, and I had to play it again before I could go on with the album. On _Hounds of Love_, the song that stood out for me was _Waking the Witch_, and on _The Sensual World_ it's _Reaching Out_. For me the song has all the power and intensity of _This Woman's Work_, with an added driving force that makes it just beautiful. In fact, this song, more than any other on the album, is just Kate. How can you say it's horrible? Jim -- James Smith | When a man fell into his anecdotage Computing Centre | it was a sign for him to retire from Newcastle University | the world. ccjs@cc.nu.oz.au | -- Benjamin Disraeli
jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (Jon Drukman) (11/07/89)
In article <8911050413.24387@munnari.oz.au> CCJS@cc.nu.OZ.AU (James Smith) writes: >For me the song has all the power and intensity of _This Woman's Work_, >with an added driving force that makes it just beautiful. In fact, >this song, more than any other on the album, is just Kate. > >How can you say it's horrible? I'm really intrigued by the fact that you say that this song more than any other is "Just Kate." Because it really isn't. It's more like Barbara Streisand or Bette Midler or (god forbid) Jon Bon Jovi. In the last "Homeground" they repeatedly referred to this song as "anthemic." And, if you'll excuse the horrible wordplay, I find anthems anathema. Anthemic to me means "bombast" and "pomp" and "really unenjoyable listening experience." I also think that this song really doesn't have naything to say. My personal opinion is that Kate is at her best when telling us stories. Practically all the songs on "The Dreaming" are story-telling songs and the ones that aren't are brilliantly observed tracts on life and philosophy, so I like them anyway. For my money, "The Sensual World" is the most barren of story-telling songs of all the Kate albums. It's all sort of like "Love is great" or "We all need support at times." These platitudes are all very nice but they don't make terribly original songs. Kate manages to make original songs out of most them, but "Reaching Out" fails utterly miserably for me in this respect. This is how I can call it horrible. All clear? +---------------------- Is there any ESCAPE from NOISE? ----------------------+ | | |\ | jsd@gaffa.mit.edu | "I like George Bush, but this `kinder, | | \|on |/rukman | jsd@umass.bitnet | gentler' crap is killing us." - D.Trump | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+