[rec.music.gaffa] Watching You Without Me

Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (10/18/89)

Really-From: gatech.edu!mit-eddie!eddie.mit.edu!henrik@cs.utexas.edu (Larry DeLuca)

Would you believe:

	"Don't ignore, don't ignore me -
	 let me in I'm alone here now?"

It's twelve words, begins with don't, and reads properly from the
forward direction.

Thanks for this go to Joe Turner for being the vessel through which 
the first of a series of _Sensual World Miracles_ (TM) has been
performed.  After a first listen to the new album, Joe started
speaking in tongues in the car and blurted out these twelve words.

					larry...

Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (10/19/89)

Really-From: Jamie Andrews <jha%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK>

>Really-From: gatech.edu!mit-eddie!eddie.mit.edu!henrik@cs.utexas.edu (Larry DeLuca)
>Would you believe:
>	"Don't ignore, don't ignore me -
>	 let me in I'm alone here now?"

     I believe!

     Hallelujah!

--Jamie.
(Anyone else notice how much the Trio B. sound like Kate's
forward-backward messages?  Maybe that's what she liked about them!)

CCJS@cc.nu.OZ.AU (James Smith) (11/08/89)

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From The Kate Bush Club Newsletter:

We have decided to put you out of your misery regarding the
"Watching You Without Me" competition.  Many attempts were
getting further and further away from the answer; things like
"Don't need much, don't need money, believe life goes on and
on" and "Don't seek far don't seek for me, let me learn widowly
love."  Others made us think some of you were on another
planet; "Don't somnie morn somnie mornings then mean life
goes on and on" and "Don't run on those Blarney mats, in own
keen-ness slumps keen-ness."  There were quite a few who
thought the word dawn was in there somewhere "Don't be sad
don't be lonely, let me see the coming dawn" and "Don't need
more dawn each morning, help me that was long enough."  In
the last few months we've received many suggestions which
have trhe first 8 words right:--"Don't ignore don't ignore me let
me in"...  But nobody got the last 4 words right--the
suggestions included ,"I'm the dawning of"/"on the dawning
hour"/"at the dawning hour"/"I must only knock"/"I was
holding on."  But the correct answer is ... DON'T IGNORE
DON'T IGNORE ME, LET ME IN AND DON'T BE LONG.

Jon Drukman writes:

> First, Joe's reading of the (forwards!) words "Don't ignore me..." is
> almost certainly correct.  I don't even have to go back to _the_Ninth_Wave_
> to be convinced that they fit.  It even seems _obvious_ in retrospect.
> (I'll eat all the above words if I pop the CD in this afternoon and I'm
> wrong (and if anyone sends me a hard copy!).  I'll eat them forwards
> _and_ backwards.)

:-)

Jim

-- 
James Smith          | When a man fell into his anecdotage
Computing Centre     | it was a sign for him to retire from
Newcastle University | the world.
ccjs@cc.nu.oz.au     |                 -- Benjamin Disraeli

CCJS@cc.nu.oz (James Smith) (11/09/89)

We have decided to put you out of your misery regarding the
"Watching You Without Me" competition.  Many attempts were
getting further and further away from the answer; things like
"Don't need much, don't need money, believe life goes on and
on" and "Don't seek far don't seek for me, let me learn widowly
love."  Others made us think some of you were on another
planet; "Don't somnie morn somnie mornings then mean life
goes on and on" and "Don't run on those Blarney mats, in own
keen-ness slumps keen-ness."  There were quite a few who
thought the word dawn was in there somewhere "Don't be sad
don't be lonely, let me see the coming dawn" and "Don't need
more dawn each morning, help me that was long enough."  In
the last few months we've received many suggestions which
have trhe first 8 words right:--"Don't ignore don't ignore me let
me in"...  But nobody got the last 4 words right--the
suggestions included ,"I'm the dawning of"/"on the dawning
hour"/"at the dawning hour"/"I must only knock"/"I was
holding on."  But the correct answer is ... DON'T IGNORE
DON'T IGNORE ME, LET ME IN AND DON'T BE LONG.

Jon Drukman writes:

> First, Joe's reading of the (forwards!) words "Don't ignore me..." is
> almost certainly correct.  I don't even have to go back to _the_Ninth_Wave_
> to be convinced that they fit.  It even seems _obvious_ in retrospect.
> (I'll eat all the above words if I pop the CD in this afternoon and I'm
> wrong (and if anyone sends me a hard copy!).  I'll eat them forwards
> _and_ backwards.)

:-)

Jim

-- 
James Smith          | When a man fell into his anecdotage
Computing Centre     | it was a sign for him to retire from
Newcastle University | the world.
ccjs@cc.nu.oz.au     |                 -- Benjamin Disraeli

jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (Jon Drukman) (11/09/89)

In article <8911072228.13166@munnari.oz.au> CCJS@cc.nu.OZ.AU (James Smith) writes:
>holding on."  But the correct answer is ... DON'T IGNORE
>DON'T IGNORE ME, LET ME IN AND DON'T BE LONG.
>
>Jon Drukman writes:
>
>> First, Joe's reading of the (forwards!) words "Don't ignore me..." is
>> almost certainly correct.  I don't even have to go back to _the_Ninth_Wave_
>> to be convinced that they fit.  It even seems _obvious_ in retrospect.
>> (I'll eat all the above words if I pop the CD in this afternoon and I'm
>> wrong (and if anyone sends me a hard copy!).  I'll eat them forwards
>> _and_ backwards.)

OK, I'm eating my words, and boy am I glad that I flavor them with
this special marinara sauce I whipped up.  However, this answer is
totally unsatisfactory!  Where the KBC claims the last phrase is
"and don't be long" the music seems to have an extra syllable that
just can't be accounted for with this ridiculous phrase!  In Joe's
theory, the wording was "I'm alone here now" - the problem is that
"alone" has the nice unstressed/stressed pattern that the music has,
and "and don't" doesn't have enough syllables to cover.

The only way I could account for this is if Kate is stuttering and
saying something like "And d-don't be long."  Besides, Kate has been
lying her face off lately, maybe this is just another example.

Well, now I don't need to go get breakfast anyway.  :)


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CCJS@cc.nu.OZ.AU (James Smith) (11/13/89)

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Don't ignore don't ignore me, let me in and don't be long.

Jon Drukman writes:

> However, this answer is
> totally unsatisfactory!  Where the KBC claims the last phrase is
> "and don't be long" the music seems to have an extra syllable that
> just can't be accounted for with this ridiculous phrase!  In Joe's
> theory, the wording was "I'm alone here now" - the problem is that
> "alone" has the nice unstressed/stressed pattern that the music has,
> and "and don't" doesn't have enough syllables to cover.

Try stretching the 'me' to two syllables.  It works.

Jim

P.S. No offence meant.  I have a terrible habit of playing
devil's advocate.

-- 
James Smith          | When a man fell into his anecdotage
Computing Centre     | it was a sign for him to retire from
Newcastle University | the world.
ccjs@cc.nu.oz.au     |                 -- Benjamin Disraeli

CCJS@cc.nu.oz (James Smith) (11/14/89)

Don't ignore don't ignore me, let me in and don't be long.

Jon Drukman writes:

> However, this answer is
> totally unsatisfactory!  Where the KBC claims the last phrase is
> "and don't be long" the music seems to have an extra syllable that
> just can't be accounted for with this ridiculous phrase!  In Joe's
> theory, the wording was "I'm alone here now" - the problem is that
> "alone" has the nice unstressed/stressed pattern that the music has,
> and "and don't" doesn't have enough syllables to cover.

Try stretching the 'me' to two syllables.  It works.

Jim

P.S. No offence meant.  I have a terrible habit of playing
devil's advocate.

-- 
James Smith          | When a man fell into his anecdotage
Computing Centre     | it was a sign for him to retire from
Newcastle University | the world.
ccjs@cc.nu.oz.au     |                 -- Benjamin Disraeli