Julian.West@MAC.DARTMOUTH.EDU (11/10/89)
> songs such as "love & anger" and "never be mine", > tracks like "rocket's tail" or "the fog". Tracy, in what sense is "rocket's tail" _anything_like_ "the fog"? And how do they collectively differ from "love & anger"? I just can't make sense of your attempt to break the album into male and female songs, because I can't see what foundation you are trying to base it on. Personally, I love "the fog" and "love & anger". I like "never be mine" quite a lot, but no more than many other tracks on the _World_. "rocket's tail" is my least favourite song on the album. What gender does that make me? ----------------------------------------- julian -------- ps so does your colleague recognize dr bush's voice on the album?
steve@halley.UUCP (Steve Williams) (11/11/89)
In a recent article, Julian.West@MAC.DARTMOUTH.EDU writes in response to one of tracy's: [First tracy wrote: ] >> songs such as "love & anger" and "never be mine", > >> tracks like "rocket's tail" or "the fog". > >Tracy, in what sense is "rocket's tail" _anything_like_ >"the fog"? And how do they collectively differ from >"love & anger"? I just can't make sense of your >attempt to break the album into male and female songs, >because I can't see what foundation you are trying to >base it on. Not "defending" tracy (or attacking julian, whom I credit for initiating much of my pre-release understanding of TSW), but I don't think tracy stated outright that "Rocket's Tail" was *like* "The Fog", just that she'd noted a preference among females at her site for those songs, while the males preferred the other examples. Perhaps the word "like" should be read "such as" to more accurately convey the sense of the paragraph. And while I'd hate to think we have to take sides about Kate's music based on our gender, Kate herself was the first to bring up the idea that this is her most "female" work to date. So tracy can't be faulted for posting the preferences she's noted among her co-workers. By the bye, my own current favorites are the interlocked pair of "Between a Man and a Woman" and "Never Be Mine". So what does that make me? Buy the other bigh, my two favorite phrases on the album occur within seconds of one another, interrupted by my *least* favorite phrase. The winners are the "Nmmmmm-nmmmm-nmmmmm...nmmmm-nmmmm-nmmmm" at the end of "LaA" and the Laugh after the song. My least favorite? The gratuitous "Yeah!" in between the other two phrases. Although I'd never really do it, I've considered deleting that phrase when I get around to making cassette copies of the album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Williams ...!cs.utexas.edu!halley!steve Tandem Computers (512)-244-8252 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
dbk@MIMSY.UMD.EDU (Dan Kozak) (11/15/89)
From article <625@halley.UUCP>, by steve@halley.UUCP (Steve Williams): > Buy the other bigh, my two favorite phrases on the album occur within > seconds of one another, interrupted by my *least* favorite phrase. > The winners are the "Nmmmmm-nmmmm-nmmmmm...nmmmm-nmmmm-nmmmm" at the > end of "LaA" and the Laugh after the song. My least favorite? The > gratuitous "Yeah!" in between the other two phrases. Although I'd > never really do it, I've considered deleting that phrase when I get > around to making cassette copies of the album. It always seemed "obvious" to me that the laugh was a reaction to the "Yeah!." It just sounds like she was ad libbing along and inserted the "yeah" w/o thinking and then laughed at the siliness of it. The long pause is easily attributed (by anyone whoses spent much time in the studio) to the "keep-quiet-at-the-end-of-the-take-so-the-editing- will-be-easier" ethos. [usage _question_, not attack] > she'd noted a preference among females at her site for those songs, ^^^^^^^ > while the males preferred the other examples. Perhaps the word "like" ^^^^^ > the idea that this is her most "female" work to date. So tracy ^^^^^^ I notice that alot of people these days use "females" and "mailes" rather than women and men. These are extrememly awkward in my dialect and I was just wondering if anyone else out there felt the same way, or could explain why this is happening. In the last case, "feminine" would seem to me to be an infinitely preferable adjective, rather than just using "female" in an adjectival way. Comments? -- #dan Clever: dbk@mimsy.umd.edu | "For I was rolled in water, Not-so-clever: uunet!mimsy!dbk | I was rolled out past the pier" - MoB