IED0DXM@OAC.UCLA.EDU (12/13/89)
To: Love-Hounds From: Andrew Marvick (IED) Subject: Kruel irony: ied shoT down by own pop idol As though she had been listening in on the recent argument in Love-Hounds, Kate Bush said in the new VH-1 interview: "_Nature_ is perfect. Anything we human beings do can never really be perfect." Hmm...IED will need a little time to find a way out of this mess... -- Andrew Marvick
nrc@cbnews.UUCP (12/13/89)
IED0DXM@OAC.UCLA.EDU: > > To: Love-Hounds > From: Andrew Marvick (IED) > Subject: Kruel irony: ied shoT down by own pop idol > > As though she had been listening in on the recent argument > in Love-Hounds, Kate Bush said in the new VH-1 interview: "_Nature_ > is perfect. Anything we human beings do can never really be perfect." > Hmm...IED will need a little time to find a way out of this mess... > > -- Andrew Marvick This is the sort of trauma that has been known to send alternate personalities into permanent remission. :-) I was disappointed to hear Kate relate some of Reich's work as fact, e.g. "he could make it rain." Does she really believe this or was she omitting details for the sake of brevity? (Sorry, it sounds like the group has been through this before but I've only achieved reliable news access as of this month). Would anyone care to speculate on whether we owe a visibly more weathered Kate to the beloved tobacco industry or does She age after all? :-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't drive too slowly." Richard Caldwell AT&T Network Systems nrc@cbnews att!cbnews!nrc (614) 860-2206
dutchman@WPI.WPI.EDU (jonathan drummey) (12/15/89)
In article <8912122118.AA06054@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> IED writes: > Subject: Kruel irony: ied shoT down by own pop idol > > As though she had been listening in on the recent argument >in Love-Hounds, Kate Bush said in the new VH-1 interview: "_Nature_ >is perfect. Anything we human beings do can never really be perfect." > Hmm...IED will need a little time to find a way out of this mess... i used to think that way, kind of.... but then someone pointed out to me that humans are a part of nature too. one could look on that comment cynically as meaning that people can only approach nature's perfection. or, the way i look at it, as human beings we have the potential to be as perfect as nature... sweet dreams, jonathan jonathantdrummeyhimomdutchman@wpi.wpi.edu7925050box375fnordwpiworcester,ma01609
stewarte@UCSCC.UCSC.EDU (The Man Who Invented Himself) (12/15/89)
IED0DXM@OAC.UCLA.EDU will no doubt deny ever having said: > As though she had been listening in on the recent argument >in Love-Hounds, Kate Bush said in the new VH-1 interview: "_Nature_ >is perfect. Anything we human beings do can never really be perfect." > Hmm...IED will need a little time to find a way out of this mess... Clearly, Kate must be operating under a different definition of perfection than that recently proposed here by Julian. While that definition was interesting, I found it quite different from what I think of as perfection. With the "local maximum" rule, assuming that what is being maximized is some absolute, quantifiable measure called "quality", a work can be perfect but still be of very low quality. This I found quite unsatisfying, conceptually speaking. Perhaps Kate thinks of perfection as representing a global, rather than a local, maximum. Julian's definition does have the advantage of being better for stimulating discussion -- since it effectively disallows the suggestion "throw it away and start over" as a means to improve a song (or whatever). -- "Don't forget this shit." -- James Blood Ulmer /* uunet!sco!stewarte -or- stewarte@sco.COM -or- Stewart Evans */