[rec.music.gaffa] xtc

jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (I am the electric messiah - the AC/DC God.) (02/01/90)

In article <9001312027.AA21026@m.cs.uiuc.edu> mendel@CS.UIUC.EDU (Michael Mendelson) writes:
>I just saw an English Settlement CD (one, not two) which claimed to
>have the "entire contents of the double-LP" on it.  Were they lying,
>or is there a CD which has the whole album on it?  (I did not notice
>the company or anything else, but I don't think it was an import.)
>Wouldn't this be false advertising if as someone pointed out the 
>domestic release omits a couple of tracks?

Well, it WOULD be false advertising except for the fact that they are
absolutely unconditionally telling the truth.  I have had this CD for
well over a year and it does indeed have everything from the 2 record
set.  It's about 74 minutes long.  The original Virgin UK pressing
(available here as import) was missing "leisure" and "Down In The
Cockpit" but they are both restored on the Geffen (domestic) pressing.

There is a mailing list devoted to xtc, by the way.  The address to
subscribe is chalkhills-request@presto.ig.com.


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petersen@netcom.UUCP (Barbara Petersen) (02/01/90)

In article <9001312027.AA21026@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, mendel@CS.UIUC.EDU
(Michael Mendelson) writes:

> I just saw an English Settlement CD (one, not two) which claimed to
> have the "entire contents of the double-LP" on it.  Were they lying,
> or is there a CD which has the whole album on it?  (I did not notice
> the company or anything else, but I don't think it was an import.)
> Wouldn't this be false advertising if as someone pointed out the 
> domestic release omits a couple of tracks?

I own "English Settlement" on both CD (single CD, domestic release)
and vinyl (double LP, domestic release); they contain the identical
tracks (Runaways, Ball and Chain, Senses Working Overtime, Jason and
the Argonauts, No Thugs In Our House, Yacht Dance, All Of a Sudden,
Melt the Guns, Leisure, It's Nearly Africa, Knuckle Down, Fly On the 
Wall, Down In the Cockpit, English Roundabout, Snowman).  I don't 
know how this compares to import versions....

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lee@LIBERTY.CS.UMASS.EDU (Peter Lee) (02/02/90)

root@athena.mit.edu (Wizard A. Root):
>mendel@CS.UIUC.EDU (Michael Mendelson):
>> I just saw an English Settlement CD (one, not two) which claimed to
>> have the "entire contents of the double-LP" on it.  Were they lying,
>> or is there a CD which has the whole album on it?  (I did not notice
>> the company or anything else, but I don't think it was an import.)
>> Wouldn't this be false advertising if as someone pointed out the
>> domestic release omits a couple of tracks?
>
>Most of the XTC discs, when released, included multiple additonal
>tracks not available on the LP. I don't think that _English_Settle-
>ment was ever a double-LP, even in it's CD release, though.

Actually, English Settlement was, in fact, originally a double LP.  All
UK vinyl pressings are two records, and one US pressing (on Geffen, as I
recall) is as well.  The UK CD, however, does not contain the complete
double album (its missing two tracks, as I recall).  The US CD contains the
whole thing, as advertised.  For once, the US record company got something
right!
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stewarte@sco.COM (cutting edge is sharp, avoid contact) (02/02/90)

mendel@CS.UIUC.EDU (Michael Mendelson) will no doubt deny ever having said:
>I just saw an English Settlement CD (one, not two) which claimed to
>have the "entire contents of the double-LP" on it.  Were they lying,
>or is there a CD which has the whole album on it?  (I did not notice
>the company or anything else, but I don't think it was an import.)
>Wouldn't this be false advertising if as someone pointed out the 
>domestic release omits a couple of tracks?

English Settlement has suffered much abuse, especially considering 
what a great album it is.  The original UK vinyl version was 2 lps;
the US (Epic) version was trimmed down to one, by the exclusion of about 
5 tracks.  Geffen later acquired US rights, and rereleased ES as a
double LP.  But you knew all that, right?

So eventually Virgin UK issued ES in CD form.  At the time, the accepted
maximum length of a CD was less than it is now, so they had to trim
two tracks ("Leisure" and "Down in the Cockpit") to fit it on CD.
By the time Geffen finally got around to releasing it on CD, the max
length was greater, and there was no excuse to not release the whole
thing.  So all Geffen CDs of English Settlement are complete.

-- Stewart
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