Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (06/08/90)
Really-From: nrc@cbema.att.com (Neal R Caldwell, Ii) With my vaKaTion approaching what better time to take care of a little mental house cleaning? Putting a smiley every few lines would just about capture the tone... --- I didn't receive any further remarks on my notations to _Saxophone Song_ so you may consider it complete as last posted. I won't bother posting it again unless someone missed it. My original idea was to do the songs in order of appearance but I think that I'll switch to alphabetical order. This way we'll have and established order to work in but we'll be skipping around among the albums. Of course, I will only be doing the official releases. I don't think it's appropriate to examine a work that may or may not be KompleTe so carefully, particularly when we don't even know all the lyrics. There are plenty of masterpieces to be examined before we go rummaging through Kate's wastebasket. Many thanks to IED who contributed his lyrics file which will make this a bit easier. --- With all this talk about taking acid I thought I'd wandered into rec.music.gdead. --- Meanwhile Jon Drukman reveals himself to be a closet rapper while torching Kylie and the like. Will we soon see postings flaming all music not produced entirely with drum machines signed by none other than JS Druk-master & Kool KT? There are certainly many groups or 'artists' that can be justly identified has having little artistic value. I don't think that there's anything wrong with identifying them as such as long as the reasons are valid. I'm not sure it's necessary to flame about it unless it's someone who really deserves it (e.g. Milli Vanilli and their claim to be greater than Elvis, the Beatles, et al) but then some people just naturally spit a little venom with almost every sentence. --- The Druk-master was right about one thing, extended conversations about Kylie and/or Public Enemy would probably be more appropriate in email or some other news group. --- I'm sure the folks out in California were glad to hear about the record show in New Jersy. Thanks, Fred. --- Vickie (of Chris'n'Vickie) says: > The program director at KKFI has agreed to let me tape my show in Chicago > and send it down to Kansas City so it can continue to air there! Great news! Maybe if there are any other Love-Hounds with connections in radio you can get this thing aired in some other places as well! Syndicate the darn thing! > Our site's in Boston so we'll still be on the net. > We'll be busybusybusy for the next few weeks though so we'll be scarce. Isn't moving such a joy? You discover so many wild and wondrous things lurking in closets and poorly lit corners. Good luck with the move. Since you'll be roughly half as far from your site can we expect your posting volume to double? The mind boggles. > Neal gives his listing of videos: Arg! My facist mailer insists on stamping my first name on everything and I neglected to sign my post as Richard just to add confusion. > That song is "Here Comes The Flood" and it's the most moving, subtly > emotional version I've ever heard him sing. It makes me cry. It is a very nice song, I didn't mean to treat it so lightly but I couldn't recall the song at the time. > Thanks for the list, your's does sound like something we would have put > together, except that we had stopped making dubs by the time "Don't Give Up" > was released. That was added by request. > Does your Fri Nite Sat Morn start with Dr. Morris saying... It starts with Kate walking out on stage. Sounds like I may have you to thank for this video, perhaps three or four iterations ago. > Again I say, if you bought a dub of a video that we dubbed for someone else > a long time ago, we NEVER meant for them to be sold, we NEVER meant for > anyone to make money from the dubs. I'm glad you have it, but I'm sorry you > had to pay for it. No, it was Deb who paid for a video that was a good deal different. Mine came out of the generousity of a fellow Kate fan and Love-Hounds lurker. While I'd _certainly_ pay to have this stuff, I agree completely, it really should shared, not sold for profit. --- Having dug myself into that hole, someone offered me monetary inducement to share this video with them. Sorry, but I really can't right now. I've done some dubbing of this video for other Kate fans of late so I've done my duty for now. When I do share something like this I accept only a video tape and postage in return (although I admit that I would accept an even trade of other commercially unavailable Kate video or audio). For right now, though, I'm done dubbing. I'm happy to play a small part in passing this stuff along but I don't have time to pass it along to everyone. My advice is to post a general message asking if anyone will dub it for you. If someone is feeling particularly good at the time maybe they'll pass it - or something like it - along. If you wait a few months it might be me. I'm sure there are plenty of Love-Hounds who can sympathize with dubbing burn-out. Note that while each generation of the tape should be worse than the last, mine is so poor that copies were not noticeably worse so I'm probably not the best person to get this from anyway. --- _Heads We're Dancing_ is driving me mad. There seem to be a some backing vocals that are almost completely obscured by the instrumentation and lead vocals. These are so deeply layered into the music that they are barely discernable. Another "secret message" perhaps? Maybe, but sometimes I think they're just saying "do-do- do-do-do". And what about those touch-tones in _Deeper Understanding_? --- MTV is starting a request show for old or new videos. It's probably another 900 number but maybe it would be worth it to coordinate an effort to get a rare Kate video shown, perhaps the Wogan performance of _Running Up That Hill_? --- I've often worried that Kate's smoking habit might someday rob us of her tremendous talent or that it might some day come to affect her work. According to a friend, KT neophyte and burgeoning Love-Hound it has happened already. She notes that "the laugh" on _The Sensual World_ is clearly the laugh of a smoker. Maybe. Or maybe its just the recording. It's certainly hard to imagine the voice that produced the first note of _This Woman's Work_ as suffering the affects of over fifteen years of tar and nicotine. I guess it's Kate's choice. --- I've never been one to chant that Kate is God. I will concede that _Ne T'en Fui Pas_ is almost certainly some sort of message from God. I'm a bit concerned about the possibility of lightning strikes right now. --- And just how long will we have to wait for the next album? I'm betting no more than three years. Sure, she's taken a year longer to complete each of the last three albums but she's never gone more than three years without some kind of major release (i.e. income). All the new equipment that she's bound to realize she'll need for her next album will not come cheap. But then maybe I just don't care to contemplate the possibility of four or even five year wait. Does anyone know if there are any obligations built into her new Columbia contract? "Don't drive too slowly." 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Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (06/09/90)
Really-From: Happy Beef Torque <jsd@gaffa.MIT.EDU> >Really-From: nrc@cbema.att.com (Neal R Caldwell, Ii) >Meanwhile Jon Drukman reveals himself to be a closet rapper while >torching Kylie and the like. Will we soon see postings flaming >all music not produced entirely with drum machines signed by none >other than JS Druk-master & Kool KT? Actually, I was going to use "MC I Can't Believe It's Not Butter & DJ Screaming Guy"... >There are certainly many groups or 'artists' that can be justly >identified has having little artistic value. I don't think that >there's anything wrong with identifying them as such as long as the >reasons are valid. I'm not sure it's necessary to flame about it >unless it's someone who really deserves it (e.g. Milli Vanilli and >their claim to be greater than Elvis, the Beatles, et al) but then >some people just naturally spit a little venom with almost every >sentence. *haaaaack* *ptoing* *fizzzzz* who me? C'mon, do you want this to be all sweetness and light? Where's the GRIT that belongs, nay, is REQUIRED of any Kate oriented discussion group? You can't tell me that a woman who wrote something like "Get Out Of My House" wouldn't want it that way. Milli Vanilli are ridiculous. They were deftly dissed by the TV show "In Living Color." Any band whose reputation lies solely in their hairstyle deserves to die. Besides, they stole the idea from their name from "Scritti Politti" - a pop (top 40 even) band who have a few songs that I just couldn't live without. (Shocking confession time!) >And what about those touch-tones in _Deeper Understanding_? Ever hear of a modem? Mine makes nice noises when connecting to machines like Gaffa (my equivalent of the 'voice console')... >She notes that "the laugh" on _The Sensual World_ >is clearly the laugh of a smoker. >Maybe. Or maybe its just the recording. It's certainly hard to >imagine the voice that produced the first note of _This Woman's Work_ >as suffering the affects of over fifteen years of tar and nicotine. Well, maybe she just drank a lot of milk. Milk and other dairy products are well known for their ability to clog your vocal cords with mucous, thus providing a nice "rough" quality to your vox. I'm told Kate drank lots of milk before tackling some of the more, um, startling, vox on tracks like "Houdini" and "Get Out Of My House." >I've never been one to chant that Kate is God. I will concede that >_Ne T'en Fui Pas_ is almost certainly some sort of message from God. Oh yeah, no question. Anybody wanna buy me a fretless? >All the new equipment that she's bound to realize she'll need for her >next album will not come cheap. New equipment? Kate? C'mon, she's using a Fairlight (which is still widely respected, but there are more modern, 'flash' machines available for a zillionth of the price) that she admits she can't even program (although that may have changed) and a Yamaha DX-7, for pity's sake! I should probably mention that I absolutely _detest_ DX-7s. Compare the sterile timbres of TSW to the more lifelike, analogue sounds on _The_Dreaming_. Also, the grainier quality of the old Fairlight II's samples added a nice element of dirtyness. Who could forget the barely-audible aliasing on those "ha" samples in "All The Love" for instance? Screw new equipment. Kate needs a Roland MKS-70 and her old Fairlight back. She could use some new noise supressors though, maybe. Or a better mixing desk. +---------------------- Is there any ESCAPE from NOISE? ---------------------+ | | |\ | jsd@gaffa.mit.edu | ZIK ZAK - We make everything you need, | | \|on |/rukman | jsd@umass.bitnet | and you need everything we make. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+