Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/04/90)
Really-From: woj@paladin.Owego.NY.US (my favorite buildings)
ied called for more input on the seKreT message in experiment iv.
so, after listening to the excerpt in question for about fifty
times on my poor cassette deck (i haven't decided that it is worth
it to shell out the $$$ for only one new song on cd), i must say that
my ears hear something more akin to what ied hears, rather than ryan
mcguire's sentence.
for a while, i felt that i was hearing something more like:
i bet my mug's gonna give me an implement
with the word implement looped an extra time at the end of the
sentence, but about twenty listens later with the low-end frequencies
boosted, i could discern the word separation into what *could* be
the phrase that ied purports to hear ("...a little toy instrument").
i'm still not sure exactly what i'm hearing at that point, but i will
concede that his phrase is quite possible. i'll also admit that ied's
makes a bit more sense then what i originally heard, but one must
remember that KaTe has probably masked the words so that phonetic
sounds gets muffled - what i wrote is the *sounds* that i hear, rather
then the words they might map to.
in other news, has anybody attempted to figure out what KaTe sings at
the end of the "love and anger" video? i recently got a letter from
meredith tarr and she says that repeated viewings leads her to believe
that KaTe is mouthing "very interesting." i cannot comment as my videos
are now in new jersey where i will be moving to thursday of this week.
which brings me to another question: are there any love-hounds in the
northern new jersey/eastern pennslyvania/southern new york/southern
new england area who might want to try and arrange a KaTemas bash for
the area? i don't know at this point whether or not i could host such
a gathering as i have not had a chance to discuss these things with
my new roommate or discover what kinds of rules/regulations apply to
my new domicile, but if there is interest and something can be arranged,
i know i'd be more thatn willing to either help out or, possibly (but
don't quote me on that yet), host. i cannot provide the same amount of
obsKuriTies that ied has, but i will bring my meager KolleKTion to
wherever such a bash might be held.
so, if you are interested in such a party - whether to host, help out,
arrange or attend, drop me a line. since this will reach most of the
net *after* i have moved, mail any responses to what will become my
new domain address: <woiccare@pebbles.sct.clarkson.edu> (thank KaTe for
the rutgers dialup - i'll be using one of those cross-state telnet
sessions again...no more of this living in the uucpnet!!)
woj
ps. val nozick: have called your "friend" in california yet?!?
pss. congrats to c'n'v in chicago - just in time to see robyn at
loungejack's on july 27 or 28th...jburka@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) (07/05/90)
And more on the backwards stuff:
After IED posted his full lyrics to "Watching You Without Me," I pulled
out the handy-dandy digitizer and tried listening to some of the stuff.
I have a lot of trouble making out the backward "You don't hear me."s that
appear mid/end verse. They're obviously there and that's what she's saying,
but it's not as clear as a lot of other backwards-masked stuff (largely
'cause it seems to be meant largely as part of the instrumental score
as opposed to a very blatant secret message that is out in the open for
anyone to grab (such as Floyd's message on "The Wall", which is only on one
track, with no music, so it's easy to manipulate).
What was _really_ fantastic was the repeated "We see you here." that
follows the "Don't ignore me..." part. Before IED posted his lyrics, I
would have sworn that Kate was singing this part forward--I wasn't
sure about the lyrics (I figgered they were something like "We really see."),
but I had no idea this was backwards-masked. When you turn it around, you
hear some amazing singing. Simply too cool--something that sounds 'real'
both forward and backward (I never really agreed with the stuff about "We
let the weirdness in"--sound gibberish to me backward.)
I also played around a bit with the chopped-up parts on WYWM.
The first time I digitized the first part, I happened to only do one
track (I think it was the right track, but I'm not positive). I
reversed it, then listened for IED's purported backward message--"I was
here before, you talked to me, you said that you didn't think it was too
late to help me...". What I heard, though, was the _forward_ message
("Help me baby, help me baby, talk to me..."), though it was a bit
choppier. It sounded like KaTe had simply "chopped" up the original tape and
inserted every-other bit backward--where the backwards bits were a little
shorter than the forward. When I tried digitizing it with _both_ tracks,
I heard IED's message--and his transcription seems pretty close. I haven't
yet had the chance to try this part with just the left track; perhaps this
will shed some light on the matter.
___________
On a completely different matter, I experienced Bliss today--walking along
the beach, the waves washing over my feet, CD player slug over my shoulder,
listening to John Carder reciting (singing? chanting?) the end of "Jig of
Life." Sea gulls crying, wind in my hair, the crash of the waves....oooooh!
"For Now does ride in on the curl of a wave..."
Jeff
|Jeffrey C. Burka | "On the outskirts of nowhere |
|jburka@silver.ucs.indiana.edu | on the ringroad to somewhere, |
|jburka@amber.ucs.indiana.edu | on the verge of indecision..." --Fish |