Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/22/90)
Really-From: ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi) James Smith writes: >That's rather a sweeping statement, Larry. Can I make one as well? >Suppose we divide fans into those who discovered Kate at 'The Dreaming/ >Hounds of Love' stage, and those who discovered her at the beginning. >Would it be correct to say that the former are the ones who are 'a little >disappointed with _TSW_'? No evidence, no flames, just a thought... :-) I think you're on to something here! In fact, I've noticed it myself. While I didn't discover her quite at the beginning, the first album of hers that I heard (and that I fell in love with) was _The Kick Inside_. Well, I love _The Sensual World_. I haven't yet found any exceptions to your rule, which I would state as follows: If the first album you fell in love with was _TKI_ or _Lionheart_, you'll think _TSW_ is a great album. If the first such album was _TD_, or _HOL_, you won't. I don't know anybody whose first love is _Never For Ever_. Ed ed@das.llnl.gov
jburka@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) (07/22/90)
In article <9007212201.AA01317@das.llnl.gov> Love-Hounds@gaffa.MIT.EDU writes: >Really-From: ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi) >I think you're on to something here! In fact, I've noticed it myself. >While I didn't discover her quite at the beginning, the first album of >hers that I heard (and that I fell in love with) was _The Kick Inside_. >Well, I love _The Sensual World_. I haven't yet found any exceptions >to your rule, which I would state as follows: If the first album you >fell in love with was _TKI_ or _Lionheart_, you'll think _TSW_ is a great >album. If the first such album was _TD_, or _HOL_, you won't. I don't >know anybody whose first love is _Never For Ever_. >Ed Here I am. Yeah, me, the one who's first KaTedisc was _Never For Ever_. And, as one might guess from your _rather_ informal 'rule,' I have mixed feelings about TSW. Maybe, though, this has to do with the order in which I grew to love all the albums...completely unchronologically. NFE, HoL, TKI, LH, TD, then TSW. I didn't hear HoL and decide that I _had_ to have TD since it was s'posed to be in a similar vein (of sorts). I spent two or three months trying to get into TSW. Apart from "This Woman's Work" (one of KaTe's best songs ever, regardless of what IED would say of my use of 'best'), the album eluded me. Finally, something clicked... TSW is hardly my favorite KaTe album....that would be HoL. It's definitely not my least favorite...that would be Lionheart. It's somewhere in the middle, hitched up with Never For Ever, slightly behind The Dreaming. "The Fog," "TWW," "Rocket's Tail," "TSW"--these songs are all very KaTe to me. I can complain, as do others, about the wall-of-sound, dense feel of the album, as opposed to something like HoL. I prefer KaTe when her production is light and airy...even when its bashing your head in with the percussion. But geez...something about her "Hmmmm, yess." Ya gotta love it! Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "On the outskirts of nowhere | |jburka@silver.ucs.indiana.edu | on the ringroad to somewhere, | |jburka@amber.ucs.indiana.edu | on the verge of indecision..." --Fish |
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/22/90)
Really-From: adobe!!dkletter@decwrl.dec.com (Akbar & Jeff's SUPPORT GROUP for the vaguely dissatisfied) ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi) writes... >I think you're on to something here! In fact, I've noticed it myself. >While I didn't discover her quite at the beginning, the first album of >hers that I heard (and that I fell in love with) was _The Kick Inside_. >Well, I love _The Sensual World_. I haven't yet found any exceptions >to your rule, which I would state as follows: If the first album you >fell in love with was _TKI_ or _Lionheart_, you'll think _TSW_ is a great >album. If the first such album was _TD_, or _HOL_, you won't. er, hate to throw your theory out the window, but my first album was HOL (which i loved) and i like TSW just as well... now back to my lurking 2:^) -- "Yellow... black and rectangular... with wedged shapes inside... Oh, I see them everywhere... Am I losing my mind?"
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/22/90)
Really-From: a pattern on a china bowl <woiccare@clutx.clarkson.edu> Ed sez in response to somebody i can't remember (sorry): >>Suppose we divide fans into those who discovered Kate at 'The Dreaming/ >>Hounds of Love' stage, and those who discovered her at the beginning. >>Would it be correct to say that the former are the ones who are 'a little >>disappointed with _TSW_'? No evidence, no flames, just a thought... :-) > I think you're on to something here! I haven't yet found any exceptions > to your rule, which I would state as follows: If the first album you > fell in love with was _TKI_ or _Lionheart_, you'll think _TSW_ is a great > album. If the first such album was _TD_, or _HOL_, you won't. alright - i guess i'm an exception. my first was hol (wore out the writing on the cassette in fact!) and i'm partial to tsw - sure there are some songs i can do without ("between and man and a woman" for one), but i still feel it's a good KaTe album. as jeffery said, some of the songs like "the fog", "tsw", "deeper understanding" and "never be mine" are just KaTe and outweigh any thing that doesn't work elsewhere - and the sound quality was never a factor for me. the only thing that bothers me there is absolute unlistenability. woj 'the rule breaker' :)
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/22/90)
Really-From: Stephen Thomas <spt1@ukc.ac.uk> What about those people who discovered her via TSW, such as myself? What is their opinion? The order I got the albums was TSW, HoL, TKI, LH, TD then NFE. I originally got TSW on CD single, and then got the album as a result of the discussion on this group. As far as favourites are concerned my loyalties are divided between HoL and TD, depending on what I need from them at the time. Like Jeff, my least favourite is LH. And TSW? Well, that comes just after LH, for similar reasons: on LH there are tracks that I just cannot get a handle on - they refuse to stick in my memory, and there are a couple of tracks on TSW like that. Since TSW was my first album, I am only aware of its, er, different sound qualities in retrospect, after listening to TD and HoL, and I prefer the crisp percussive effects of the latter two. But that is *only* a preference, and I do not feel that TSW is necessarily a sub-standard because of it's different sound qualities. The reason it doesn't go on my CD player too often is because I don't need what it offers at the moment. Ask me when I am feeling a lot darker emotionally. Stephen -- | "Voice in your head ... | Stephen Thomas -----------------------------| | You liked what it said | Email: spt1@ukc.ac.uk; Smail: Computing Lab,| | So what can you do but listen | University of Kent, CT2 7NZ, UK; | | to it?" - All About Eve | Tel: +44 (0)227 764000 x 3824 |
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/23/90)
Really-From: wisner@hayes.fai.alaska.edu (Bill Wisner) > If the first album you >fell in love with was _TKI_ or _Lionheart_, you'll think _TSW_ is a great >album. If the first such album was _TD_, or _HOL_, you won't. For me it was The Whole Story. I then moved on to HoL and TD and loved them. Then I got TKI and loved it. Then I got TSW and it more or less completely failed to grab me (tho I do quite like Love and Anger and Rocket's Tail). Go figure. Bill Wisner <wisner@hayes.fai.alaska.edu> Gryphon Gang Fairbanks AK 99775 "Any group who starts out a song by screaming 'SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!' can't be too bad..." -- Richard Caley <rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk> on the Butthole Surfers
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/28/90)
Really-From: morning@mountains.Eng.Sun.COM (Cristina Ungstad) > >...TSW,... >...albums was TSW, HoL, TKI, LH, TD then NFE. >Since TSW ...TD and HoL.. Hi, I've been trying to figure out what this alias is all about, but I'm hopelessly lost. Could someone clue me in? Cristina
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/28/90)
Really-From: Stephen Thomas <spt1@UKC.AC.UK> In article <139785@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> you write: >Really-From: morning@mountains.Eng.Sun.COM (Cristina Ungstad) >> >>...TSW,... >...albums was TSW, HoL, TKI, LH, TD then NFE. >>Since TSW ...TD and HoL.. > >Hi, I've been trying to figure out what this alias is all about, but >I'm hopelessly lost. Could someone clue me in? Sorry. They are TKI: The Kick Inside LH: Lionheart NFE: Never For Ever TD: The Dreaming HoL: Hounds of Love TSW: The Sensual World. One other you might see referred to is TWS: The Whole Story (a compilation album). Hope this helps. >Cristina Stephen -- | "Voice in your head ... | Stephen Thomas -----------------------------| | You liked what it said | Email: spt1@ukc.ac.uk; Smail: Computing Lab,| | So what can you do but listen | University of Kent, CT2 7NZ, UK; | | to it?" - All About Eve | Tel: +44 (0)227 764000 x 3824 |
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/30/90)
Really-From: hsu@Eng.Sun.COM (Dave Hsu [Contractor]) In article <139785@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> you write: >>...TSW,... >...albums was TSW, HoL, TKI, LH, TD then NFE. >>Since TSW ...TD and HoL.. > >Hi, I've been trying to figure out what this alias is all about, but >I'm hopelessly lost. Could someone clue me in? You've wandered into the progressive music (really Kate Bush) newsgroup. The initials refer to her albums: The Sensual World, Hounds of Love, The Kick Inside, Lionheart, The Dreaming, and Never For Ever. -dave