Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/30/89)
Really-From: Pete Hartman <bucc2!pwh@bradley.edu> interesting bit I just ran across..... If Dr. Who is a reliable source, the aborigine version of heaven's arrival is referred to as "The Dreaming". This puts an interesting spin on the song and the album.....
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (10/03/89)
Really-From: munnari!wraith.cs.uow.oz.au!stephen@uunet.UU.NET (Stephen Nicholson) In article <623129577@bucc2.UUCP>, Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU writes: > Really-From: Pete Hartman <bucc2!pwh@bradley.edu> > > interesting bit I just ran across..... > > If Dr. Who is a reliable source, the aborigine version of heaven's > arrival is referred to as "The Dreaming". This puts an interesting > spin on the song and the album..... In Aboriginal terms, the Dreamtime is the time before man. It is a mythology that explains the creation of the Universe, man, the animals, and in each tribe's general area, prominent landscape features. As indicated above, each tribe has slightly different verisons of the Dreaming, but for the most part, all Aborigines had a basic mythos which in English translates as the Dreamtime. If you want more, then there are quite a few excellent books I have seen in Australia that tell about the Dreamtime. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Nicholson (The Mighty Ogbo) stephen@wraith.cs.uow.oz "I'll bet you're the sort of bloke who pulls his undies out of his bum with his finger when he's talking to someone..." - Black Alice - "Sons of Steel" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (10/04/89)
Really-From: David Mark Svoboda <ds68+@andrew.cmu.edu> hmmm...Is that what T. Dolby was singing about in Mulu the Rain Forest? (off the Flat Earth) Incidentally, someone once tried to tell me that KT also had a vox part in Radio Silence (Golden Age of Wireless). I always thought that was Lana Luvich, wasn't it? --------------------- David Svoboda Pianist From Hell --------------------- "Both my partners act like actors. uh-oh..."
relph@PRESTO.IG.COM (John M. Relph) (11/02/89)
cheung@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (rich) sez (and I know it was eons ago): > > However, even gods are not >perfect and her mistake happens to be ............. The Dreaming. I >can't understand what you people see or hear in this album. I don't >even consider it music - it's that bad. To which ?>oug sez: > [ Repent, sinner! Repent! *The Dreaming* is the one true word of > God... etc. Yea, verily. Actually, I heard two or three songs by Kate Bush when I was in Ireland in 1979 and 1980. I had never heard of her before, but found the video for "Wow" interesting, and found the video for "Breathing" quite good. When I came back to the states I heard a Pat Benatar song that made me jump. Sure enough, when I looked at the credits it was a Kate Bush song -- "Wuthering Heights". I bought the single of "Breathing" and played it some, and it was good. But I didn't really think about Kate's music much, and didn't listen for it on the radio, nor did I buy her albums. But one day I saw _The Dreaming_ for sale cheap at a used record store (it was a cutout), so I bought it, what the heck. And boy, was it ever weird. Weirder than Peter Gabriel. Very Weird. Yeah. But I played it again. And again. And it got better every time. I must have played that album once or more per day for a couple of months. Wow. I don't do that with albums very often. What a great album. And now I'm hooked. And it's still her best. Side two of _Hounds of Love_ is pretty incredible, though. And the "Meteorological Mix" is the best twelve inch I've laid my hands on. Play it. Loud. LOUD. FUCKING LOUD. Sorry, rambled a bit. Anyway. XTC is better than Kate. -- John
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/25/90)
Really-From: woiccare@pebbles.sct.clarkson.edu tomas sez: > P.S. Lest we drown ourselves in simple factual info and trivia (always > fun but not enough), I'd also be interested to read some comments as to > what kind of feelings, thoughts, impressions and/or emotions the > aforementioned album inspires in its devoted listeners (anyone who > actually listens to the thing has to be devoted, but anyway...). > I know it's not an easy thing to verbalize, but, well, see if you can > give it a try. hm...td was the last album i bought. mostly cos i had no real knowledge of KaTe at the time and i just picked up what i could and when. it took me by surprise, but i recall that i immediately liked it. i also remem- ber thinking about how different it made me feel from the other albums. where nfe was pure listening pleasure, the first two theatrical and very dramatic and hol (this was in `86 when i bought it) just plain sublime and moving, td came across as dissonant and almost violent. i felt pain listening to the contortions of her voice on "get out of my house". i felt confusion listening to "sat in your lap". in fact, the whole album really threw me for a loop and confused the hell out of me. but i liked it (though many of the early KonverTs i had made freshman year didn't *at all*). i know that this effect has worn off quite a bit now, and now that i bring it up, this bothers me since i *want* to feel that confusion again - the disorientation of the unexpected, the agony of the voice. hm, i think i'll listen to it when i go to bed tonight (this morning?!?) and see if it inspires any dreams...or nightmares? :) woj
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/25/90)
Really-From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Really-From: uribe@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Tomas E. Uribe): > P.S. Lest we drown ourselves in simple factual info and trivia (always > fun but not enough), I'd also be interested to read some comments as to > what kind of feelings, thoughts, impressions and/or emotions the > aforementioned album inspires in its devoted listeners (anyone who > actually listens to the thing has to be devoted, but anyway...). > I know it's not an easy thing to verbalize, but, well, see if you can > give it a try. _The Draeming_ was the first album by Ms. Bush that I stumbled across; I got it the day it came out (in Northfield, MN, that is, which isn't on the forefront of modern music...). Let's see, I also got T. Dolby's "The Flat Earth", and, I _think_, Martha and the Muffin's _Danceparc_. Dolby I sold back (can't explain it, since I like the album a lot now...), M+M I liked enough to go buy _This is the ice age_ (one of my very favorite albums!) and Kate just utterly trashed my brain. It was a really rough year anyway, between being a senior with no prospects (I was an English major, he explains) and various relationship-type disasters, and _TD_ more or less summed up my attitude. My friend Dan (who also introduced me to this news group -- hi Dan!!) had gotten me into Genesis/Gabriel/Yes/Floyd, etc., so the elaborate production caught my interest, and what with U2's _War_ and R.E.M.'s first EP coming out I was beginning to listen to more. well, desperate music, but _TD_ was this incredible howl of emotion; I didn't know a record could be that concentrated, and I was excited that KaTe had found a way to be powerful, and LOUD, without just thrashing or power-chording through standard 4/4 progressions. It was a couple of years before I bought _TKI_, because I was disappointed at first listen by its prettier, more standard gloss. (Of course, once I finally did buy it, I realized I'd been fooled by 'appearances'...) I think hearing _TD_ first has greatly affected how I hear KaTe's other work: knowing she has that in her makes me very sensitive to the 'out-there' bits in her work. Also, to this day I listen to KaTe louder than most other artists (I listen to 'noisy' groups like Pixies at very low volumes). And my first performing group was called the Dreaming. Oh yeah, and about half way through "Get Out of My House" I thought, "She is, you know." Took me years to figure it out... Footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "it all goes slo-mo"
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/25/90)
Really-From: "Andy Gough, x4-2906, pager 420-2284, CH2-59" <AGOUGH%FAB6@sc.intel.com> >From: woiccare@pebbles.sct.clarkson.edu >hm...td was the last album i bought. mostly cos i had no real knowledge >of KaTe at the time and i just picked up what i could and when. it took >me by surprise, but i recall that i immediately liked it. i also remem- >ber thinking about how different it made me feel from the other albums. Other albums? Impossible. "The Dreaming" is the only album that exists. Its reality denies the existence of all others. ;-) -andy
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/26/90)
Really-From: Jeffrey C. Burka <jburka@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> Really-From: "Andy Gough, x4-2906, pager 420-2284, CH2-59" <AGOUGH%FAB6@sc.intel.com> >Other albums? Impossible. "The Dreaming" is the only album that exists. >Its reality denies the existence of all others. Really? You seem to have missed the existence of "The Ninth Wave." >;-) " Jeff -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | "At night they're seen | |jburka@silver.ucs.indiana.edu | Laughing, loving, | |jburka@amber.ucs.indiana.edu | They know the way to be happy" --KaTe |