[rec.music.gaffa] Amarok

Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (10/25/90)

Really-From: think!ames!decwrl!decvax!zinn.MV.COM!mem@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (Mark E. Mallett)

> Robert C. Sinkovic sez:

>	Has anyone heard the new AMAROK CD by Mike Oldfield? If so,
> what are your impressions (i.e. inrelation to his other works, such
> as Ommadawn, Hergest Ridge, etc.)?

Yes, I have heard it.  It's long been my practice to buy Oldfield
albums simply because they are Oldfield albums, without having to hear
them ahead of time.  They've been getting progressively worse,
progressively pop.  "Islands" (which I bought) convinced me to be more
cautious, so I listened to a borrowed copy of Amarok.  My friend, from
whom I borrowed it, and also a die-hard Oldfield fan, told me I could
keep it.  I agree with his judgement of it.  It's simply awful.
Here's hoping he goes back to trying to make good, instead of pop,
music.

I'm only responding because I've seen only one other reply to your
question, and that reply was positive (i.e., the person liked the
album).  Go figure..

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Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (10/30/90)

Really-From: Dewhurst N E J <neil@essex.ac.uk>

Mark E. Mallett writes:

>Really-From: think!ames!decwrl!decvax!zinn.MV.COM!mem@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (Mark E. Mallett)

>> Robert C. Sinkovic sez:

>>	Has anyone heard the new AMAROK CD by Mike Oldfield? 

>...I listened to a borrowed copy of Amarok.  My friend, from
>whom I borrowed it, and also a die-hard Oldfield fan, told me I could
>keep it.  I agree with his judgement of it.  It's simply awful.
>Here's hoping he goes back to trying to make good, instead of pop,
>music.

>I'm only responding because I've seen only one other reply to your
>question, and that reply was positive (i.e., the person liked the
>album). 

That was me. I suspect you're confusing "Amarok" with the album
before it, "Earth Moving", which fits your description 
exactly. In fact, you flatter it. 

"Earth Moving" is a collection of piss-poor pop songs, a la "Islands", but 
if anything actually worse: "Amarok" is a long instrumental piece, a la 
"Ommadawn", and IMHO in the same league, though less coherent. I
think the record you heard was the former.

Feel free to roundly abuse me if I'm wrong :-].

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Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (11/03/90)

Really-From: Lazlo Nibble <lazlo@hydra.unm.edu>

Mark E. Mallett writes:

> "Islands" (which I bought) convinced me to be more cautious, so I
> listened to a borrowed copy of Amarok.  My friend, from whom I borrowed
> it, and also a die-hard Oldfield fan, told me I could keep it.  I agree
> with his judgement of it.  It's simply awful.  Here's hoping he goes
> back to trying to make good, instead of pop, music.

Are you sure you listened to AMAROK and not EARTHMOVING?  That's a
really snotty question I know, but AMAROK is about as un-Pop as
Oldfield gets.  Dislike it you might, but you'll have to come up
with a better reason than the poppiness you imply it has, when it's
actually a return to his TUBULAR BELLS-through-INCANTATIONS era in
both sound and structure . . . and in my opinion, is the best thing
he's done in fifteen years.

Lazlo (lazlo@hydra.unm.edu)
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kjetilho@ifi.uio.no (Kjetil T. Homme) (11/09/90)

In article <9911.9010301350@dylan.essex.ac.uk> Dewhurst N E J <neil@essex.ac.uk> writes:

   Mark E. Mallett writes:
   >> Robert C. Sinkovic sez:

   >>	Has anyone heard the new AMAROK CD by Mike Oldfield? 

   >...I listened to a borrowed copy of Amarok.  My friend, from
   >whom I borrowed it, and also a die-hard Oldfield fan, told me I could
   >keep it.  I agree with his judgement of it.  It's simply awful.
   >Here's hoping he goes back to trying to make good, instead of pop,
   >music.

   >I'm only responding because I've seen only one other reply to your
   >question, and that reply was positive (i.e., the person liked the
   >album). 

   That was me. I suspect you're confusing "Amarok" with the album
   before it, "Earth Moving", which fits your description 
   exactly. In fact, you flatter it. 

   "Earth Moving" is a collection of piss-poor pop songs, a la "Islands", but 
   if anything actually worse: "Amarok" is a long instrumental piece, a la 
   "Ommadawn", and IMHO in the same league, though less coherent. I
   think the record you heard was the former.

   Feel free to roundly abuse me if I'm wrong :-].

I agree with you on 'Earth Moving', it *is* dismal. But I have to say that
Amarok is even worse... He seems to think that no theme should last any 
longer than 30 seconds. Most of it is just noise, interspersed with some
whining guitar themes which hardly can be rated very original.

On the other hand, there are people who actually enjoy listening to 
Celtic Frost or Laibach, so why not Amarok?



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