Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (12/12/90)
Really-From: katefans@world.std.com (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago) Vickie here. My 2pence worth: Chris wrote: >> I'm in the process of writing a nice little note of apology, as was >> suggested by David Cross. Our feelings are not stopping us from buying >> _two_ box sets, though. Richard replied: > <sigh> Why do I have trouble mustering sympathy when you buy two of > something and then complain that it's a rip-off? We're not that bad really. We're not asking for sympathy either. There have been complaints (Peter Manchester's recent post for example) and Chris went a little bit overboard passing on some of them (we had our own complaints too). Maybe Kate needs to hear complaints every now and then. I'm against her hearing complaints about her music because that's not in the same category. Music is subjective. One person's Worst is another person't Best. All Kate does is put out the music that she's spent much time, effort and sweat on. For someone to go and tear down a song because it's not the way THEY want it to be is silly. Kate doesn't need to hear that garbage. However, the Box Set is a different story. She let it be released the way it was and there are just too many problems with it to just not say anything at all. Just a few: 1) The CD booklet should have been the same size as the LP booklet. The CD buyers are losers. The LP buyers also get an extra full size color photo of the Ninth Wave session. The CD buyers are losers. It's not fair. 2) The songs she left off, such as Dreamtime and the instrumental versions of RUTH and TSW, are wonderful and SHOULD have been included. There's just no excuse. 3) No lyrics for the B-sides? She did it for The Single File. Why not here? Did she, or someone else just assume that most buyers of TWW would already have TSF? Or did she or they just not think about it or think it was not important? Either way-it's a shame, especially for new fans who will have a hard time getting hold of all the lyrics. They would have to find and buy a copy of Kate Bush Complete to get the bulk of them. Why no biography? Of any sort. Did She or They decide that either everyone buying the set already knows everything about her or wouldn't care or if they did they'd just have to seek out and find articles, interviews, reviews...to find out any info? The fan club address isn't even included. 4) It's been hideously overpriced. Those who bought the set out of the starting gate are probably fuming to hear some of these low prices that are starting to show up. Here on the net I'm seeing the CDs priced LESS than we paid for our LP set! That's not the way to promote goodwill. I don't think that's Kate's fault at all but she should have been aware of pricing policies, AND considered the overseas fans who would be sure to want Box Sets too. Maybe she could have done something had she thought about or been told about these things in advance. Those are just a few of the many problems we have with the BxSt but we personally don't let them bother us enough to keep from...yes...buying two of them. We still haven't gotten the CDs yet but we will...for as low a price as we can possibly find them. We consider the LP set to be the real treasure so we spent our money on that. We do love the Box Set but that doesn't mean that we don't have, or can't pass on, legitimate gripes about it. Yes, we're buying two sets and as someone (I can't remember who) pointed out, we now know that at least some of the money will go toward the upcoming tour so there's good cause to shell out no matter what. Vickie (one of...) katefans@world.std.com
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (12/12/90)
Really-From: Jon Drukman <jsd@gaffa.MIT.EDU> >Vickie here. My 2pence worth: >3) No lyrics for the B-sides? She did it for The Single File. Why not > here? Did she, or someone else just assume that most buyers of TWW > would already have TSF? Or did she or they just not think about it > or think it was not important? Either way-it's a shame, especially for > new fans who will have a hard time getting hold of all the lyrics. Recently, Virgin UK released a CD full of XTC rarities, and it had a totally inadequate booklet. John Relph (moderator of Chalkhills, the XTC mailing list) put together a beautiful little booklet using a laserprinter, featuring recording details and lyrics for each song (some songs have never had official lyrics printed, so we've had to guess at those). Would someone with time and knowledge of postscript be willing to put together similar booklets for TWW I and II? We've probably got all the lyrics to the B-sides songs here on gaffa, if anyone's having trouble finding them (I honestly don't know if they are really all there, but I suspect the answer is yes.) The beautiful part is that anyone with a postscript laserprinter could ftp the sources and make their own booklets, so nobody would be overburdened. Surely even the laziest love hound could spend ten minutes with scissors and stapler... -- +---------------------- Is there any ESCAPE from NOISE? ---------------------+ | | |\ | jsd@gaffa.mit.edu | ZIK ZAK - We make everything you need, | | \|on |/rukman | -Fight The Power- | and you need everything we make. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+