pdt@mhuxv.UUCP (tyma) (05/09/84)
A recent posting offered the following notions: >This [survey] is being conducted by Bell Communications Research >...is it a marketing-type survey to help determine AT&T's >position in the market? I am a little hazy on >who does what after divestiture... It's no surprise that folks outside of what used to be the Bell System are confused about divestiture--even insiders still are. Please be advised that THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION between Bell Communications Research and AT&T--these are two TOTALLY separate corporations. Whatever the folks at BCR do is their own business, and what we in AT&T do is our own. If BCR wants to learn something about AT&T's position in a market, well, fine--they'll have to do it on their own without our help; and we for our part are no more entitled to their information than you are. (probably less! :-) Just thought you'd benefit from knowing this.
rpw3@fortune.UUCP (05/12/84)
#R:dual:-47900:fortune:5900019:000:1161
fortune!rpw3 May 11 18:18:00 1984
The interesting thing about the Bell Comm. Res. market survey questionnaire
is that the way the questions are structured, it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to
answer if your local net is a internet-datagram broadcast net, such as
Ethernet or a CSMA broadband net. Gateways aren't even discussed, per se.
The only "LAN" that seems to be possible is a fancy PABX!
This questionnaire is a classic example of what market researchers call
"closed-end questions". For example, if you want to find out what people
think young girls are going to be wearing this fall, you DON'T ask a
question like "Are they going to be wearing red, green, or brown this fall?"
You don't even say "...this fall". You ask an open-ended question like
"What are young girls going to be wearing next?". With an open-ended
question, your prejudices don't get in the way of accurate results (as much).
Would you rather be surprised now by the answer to your question?
...or a year or two from now by your sales figures? ;-}
Rob Warnock
UUCP: {ihnp4,ucbvax!amd70,hpda,harpo,sri-unix,allegra}!fortune!rpw3
DDD: (415)595-8444
USPS: Fortune Systems Corp, 101 Twin Dolphin Drive, Redwood City, CA 94065johnl@haddock.UUCP (05/14/84)
#R:mhuxv:-11100:haddock:19000002:000:609 haddock!johnl May 13 14:53:00 1984 I also got the BCR LAN questionaire, and was also struck by how amateurish it was (but I filled it out, since she did send a dollar along with it to encourage guilt). I wouldn't be surprised if it were intended to be used as ammunition in some internal LAN vs. PBX war, since it was slanted so heavily toward PBXes. Questions like "how many blahs do you expect to buy in the next year?" are pretty worthless, since people almost always give you their wish list rather than their reality. Questions like "would you be likely to buy a blah?" are even worse, since everybody says yes. John Levine, ima!johnl
harris@imsvax.UUCP (Harris Reavin) (01/09/85)
(bug food?)
I would like to run a survey on the performance of LANs in full operation.
If you wish to participate, send me a description of the equipment used,
the type of system e.g. CSMA/CD or token passing, the extent and type
of cables e.g. coaxial or twisted pair, the number and type of terminals,
work stations, minis and main frames on the net, the load on the system,
the throughput claimed by the manufacturer, the actual throughput, and
the percentage of time the system is available. Any other details that
you think are of interest could be added such as your overall opinion as
to the value of the system.
I will post a summary to net.lan. Please indicate if you want me to
delete your name in the summary.
--
Harris Reavin
UUCP: {umcp-cs!eneevax || seismo!rlgvax!elsie}!imsvax!harrisharris@imsvax.UUCP (Harris Reavin) (01/24/85)
(bug food?)
This is my third and final posting of my LAN survey. The first was
to net.lan and the second to net.general. So far I have gotten 0 (zero)
responses. I can understand that nobody may read net.general anymore so
as a final desperate try for some responses I am adding net.unix-wizards
which is the inappropriate group but at least I may get some flames.
Doesn't anybody out there in Netland use an LAN? Doesn't anybody have
any LAN experiences that they are willing to share? Perhaps you are all
too busy sending flames to each other about stargate, origins, and
pornography. If I can get at least one small response it will be a small
step for a man but a giant step for mankind or something like that. :-)
I would like to run a survey on the performance of LANs in operation.
This topic is of interest to me because I have heard that many if not most
LANs have serious performance and reliability problems.
If you wish to participate, send me a description of the equipment used,
the type of system e.g. CSMA/CD or token passing, the extent and type
of cables e.g. coaxial or twisted pair, the number and type of terminals,
work stations, minis and main frames on the LAN, the load on the system,
the throughput claimed by the manufacturer, the actual throughput, and
the percentage of time the system is available. Any other details that
you think are of interest could be added such as your overall opinion as
to the value of the system. I will post a summary to net.lan if I get any
replies to the survey.
--
Harris Reavin
UUCP: {umcp-cs!eneevax || seismo!rlgvax!elsie}!imsvax!harris