Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (07/30/89)
Really-From: jsd@gaffa.MIT.EDU (Jon Drukman)
Joe Turner and I were here making preliminary preparations for our all out
assault on the senses and decency, via the medium of Kate Bush's song
"Running Up That Hill" when we, in a fit of dumbness, watched a whole
bunch of Kate interview clips. I was suddenly visited by this apparition
that spoke unto me thusly:
"The next Kate Bush single will feature this catchy chorus:
We are living in the sensual world,
And I am a sensual girl.
over a pseudo-pop-reggae beat. Geshtunken!"
Well, Joe told me never to eat on an empty stomach...
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Really-From: timelord%TARDIS.CS.ED.AC.UK@mitvma.mit.edu Heard this (the song, that is) on Radio One today. (A rare display of taste on their part.) Sounds good - strong percussive backbeat, lots of pipes, whistles and fiddles backing Kate's vox. The arrangements sound very ethnic - wanders between Arab/Jewish melodies on the pipes and whistles with Irish fiddling coming in later. BTW, a name I noticed missing on the 'what else do Love-hounds listen to' list. Anyone out there into Annette Peacock? --Rick. "We are all slaves to the ceaseless release we reach, but we never possess." (Annette Peacock)
davidbro@microsoft.UUCP (David Brown) (09/08/89)
In article <sent.Wed.Sep..6.14:58:25.GMT.1989.via.CS.TARDIS> Love-Hounds@GAFFA.MIT.EDU writes:
<Heard this (the song, that is) on Radio One today. (A rare display of taste on
<their part.) Sounds good - strong percussive backbeat, lots of pipes, whistles
<and fiddles backing Kate's vox. The arrangements sound very ethnic - wanders
<between Arab/Jewish melodies on the pipes and whistles with Irish fiddling
<coming in later.
<
< --Rick.
YOU HEARD THIS SONG?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??????????
ARGH!!!! NEW KATE!!!!
_AND_ _I_ _HAVEN'T_ _HEARD_ _IT_ _YET_!!!!!
sorry, sorry...
I hope you will all understand what this does to me.
dave
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Dave Brown ...!uunet!microsoft!davidbro
Systems Division, Microsoft Corp., Redmond Wa.
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"If you've got a black list, I want to be on it"Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/08/89)
Really-From: n8445482@unicorn.wwu.edu (Bil) In article <8909071829.AA06797@uunet.uu.net> Love-Hounds@GAFFA.MIT.EDU writes: >From: davidbro@microsoft.UUCP (David Brown) >Subject: Re: The Sensual World >References: <sent.Wed.Sep..6.14:58:25.GMT.1989.via.CS.TARDIS> ><Heard this (the song, that is) on Radio One today. >< --Rick. >YOU HEARD THIS SONG?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?????????? >ARGH!!!! NEW KATE!!!! >_AND_ _I_ _HAVEN'T_ _HEARD_ _IT_ _YET_!!!!! >Dave Brown ...!uunet!microsoft!davidbro After reading these postings last night, 6 of the 3 people living a KateHouse committed suicide. Oh the humanity. Fortunately, overdosing to _The_Dreaming_ hasn't been proven to be fatal. Nonetheless, there exist people out there who have heard new Kate. This is seriously depressing. -- life: Bil | I'm solely net: bill@unicorn.wwu.edu | responsible for at&t: (206)-671-1219 | my version of post: 1245 Toledo St., B'ham Wa. 98226 | raelity. "...Oh, I don't know, go glue him to a floor, or something..." _The_Long,_Dark_Tea_Time_of_the_Soul_
ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi) (09/08/89)
In the August 26 issue of _Melody Maker_, there's a little news item. It says the usual about the album's release date of Oct. 16, and then it says that "Top brass from EMI were invited down to Bush's country estate to hear the final version of the album last weekend. Insiders report that it's 'very arty'." Hmm. Any comments? Also, was I hallucinating or did I really see the following posted? >Really-From: timelord%TARDIS.CS.ED.AC.UK@mitvma.mit.edu > > >Heard this (the song, that is) on Radio One today. (A rare display of taste on >their part.) Sounds good - strong percussive backbeat, lots of pipes, whistles >and fiddles backing Kate's vox. The arrangements sound very ethnic - wanders >between Arab/Jewish melodies on the pipes and whistles with Irish fiddling >coming in later. > > --Rick. Can this be POSSIBLE??? Can they really have played the song almost two weeks before its official release date??? I am ALREADY JEALOUS!!! Well, we should all be hearing it soon, I hope. Ed ed@das.llnl.gov
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/11/89)
Really-From: ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi) First, I'd like to apologize for my double postings. Something funny was going on with Love-Hounds over the weekend. This morning, I told "Holden Caulfield" at KFJC about that telephone number. He played it on the air, as I knew he would. Actually, first he played WH (n.v.). (He actually mentioned that this was the "re-done" version, and that the original was on her first album. KITS never mentions anything about this.) Then he tried calling, but the line was busy. (That's funny; I've called about fifteen times now, and it's never been busy for me.) He said, "Ah, well, it's all those Kate Bush fanatics hogging the line." But eventually the call did go through. Afterwards, he said, "That was the Kate Bush info line -- something like 976-KATE." When I was talking to him on the telephone, telling him about the number, I also told him that the single should be released in Britain a week from today. He said he would probably be able to get an import copy of it soon thereafter! That's it for now. Ed ed@das.llnl.gov
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/12/89)
Really-From: stewarte@uunet.uu.net (Little Johnny Jewel) Was I only dreaming, or did ed@das.UUCP (Edward Suranyi) actually say: >In the August 26 issue of _Melody Maker_, there's a little news item. >It says the usual about the album's release date of Oct. 16, and then >it says that "Top brass from EMI were invited down to Bush's country >estate to hear the final version of the album last weekend. Insiders >report that it's 'very arty'." > >Hmm. Any comments? Didn't I read in this very space that Kate had switched to CBS Records? Ed, was this a typo on your part? Or maybe on Melody Maker's? Or perhaps Kate just wanted to show them what they were missing? Just what is going on here, anyway? -- Stewart -- "Language and I are barely on speaking terms." -- Kathy Van Stone /* uunet!sco!stewarte -or- stewarte@sco.COM -or- Stewart Evans */
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/12/89)
Really-From: stewarte@ucscc.UCSC.EDU (The Man Who Invented Himself) Was I only dreaming, or did ed@das.UUCP (Edward Suranyi) actually say: >In the August 26 issue of _Melody Maker_, there's a little news item. >It says the usual about the album's release date of Oct. 16, and then >it says that "Top brass from EMI were invited down to Bush's country >estate to hear the final version of the album last weekend. Insiders >report that it's 'very arty'." > >Hmm. Any comments? Didn't I read in this very space that Kate had switched to CBS Records? Ed, was this a typo on your part? Or maybe on Melody Maker's? Or perhaps Kate just wanted to show them what they were missing? Just what is going on here, anyway? -- Stewart ---- "Language and I are barely on speaking terms." -- Kathy Van Stone /* uunet!sco!stewarte -or- stewarte@sco.COM -or- Stewart Evans */
ed@das.llnl.gov (Edward Suranyi) (09/12/89)
>Really-From: stewarte@ucscc.UCSC.EDU (The Man Who Invented Himself) > >Was I only dreaming, or did ed@das.UUCP (Edward Suranyi) actually say: > [I won't repeat my comments about EMI brass thinking the album "very arty".] > >Didn't I read in this very space that Kate had switched to CBS Records? >Ed, was this a typo on your part? Or maybe on Melody Maker's? Or >perhaps Kate just wanted to show them what they were missing? > >Just what is going on here, anyway? > >-- Stewart Others may answer this question too, but since I wrote the posting you are questioning, I'll answer it. Kate switched to CBS Records in America only. (I.e., she is no longer with EMI-America.) She remains with EMI Records in Britain, and throughout the rest of the world, as far as I know. Ed ed@das.llnl.gov
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/12/89)
Really-From: motcid!marble!meadley@uunet.UU.NET (A. Meadley) Hi Stewart, >>"Top brass from EMI were invited down to Bush's country estate ... >... Kate had switched to CBS Records? Yes and no. In the UK Kate is and has always been with EMI. The problem in the US was that EMI America "forgot" that her contract was about to expire, and when it did, she decided to transfer to CBS for her _American_distribution_only_. Ant in Chicago.
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (09/25/89)
Really-From: Steve Wallis <stevew%mushroom.computer-science.manchester.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK> There will probably be several postings to the same effect, but I feel that, as I have now been KonverTed from a casual KT fan, it's about time I made my first KonTribution... TSW has entered the British chart at number 12. (The song is really good, by the way). Steve.
Love-Hounds-request@GAFFA.MIT.EDU (10/17/89)
Really-From: Jon Drukman <jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU> I just gotta gloat a little, kiddies. 30 minutes and $13 later, I am one Sensual World CD richer. It sounds wonderful! No more garbled engine sounds during "The Fog" and the opening of "Heads We're Dancing" (fraid the apostrophe is very definitely there on the silkscreen, back cover and lyrics booklet.) packs a real kick now. The cover picture is kinda lame. I like the single cover better. Maybe if the rose was glowing neon blue or something... +---------------------- Is there any ESCAPE from NOISE? ----------------------+ | | |\ | jsd@gaffa.mit.edu | "I like George Bush, but this `kinder, | | \|on |/rukman | jsd@umass.bitnet | gentler' crap is killing us." - D.Trump | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
nbc@INF.RL.AC.UK (12/09/89)
The Sensual World - a View from the Isles I have until now not entered the debate about _The_Sensual_World_, preferring to have time to enjoy it and form a deep impression. For me that process is not yet complete but I feel that some of the comments people are making in this forum cannot be left to go unchallenged and I want to make some points at this time. Needless to say, what follows will be a personal viewpoint. It seems that a large number of people are posting to Love-hounds statements such as "_The_Sensual_World_ is a disappointment", or that "it was not worth the wait", or that "it is not as good as _Hounds_of_Love_". I can only think that such people have not really **listened** to the album as opposed to being in the same room when it is playing. Either that or they have been listening to a different album to me. What is more, some people have gone as far as to use the terms "substandard" or even "mediocre" when discussing _The_Sensual_World_. Such statements are so patently trite and ill thought out that one wonders whether the posters are merely acting as agents provocateurs to generate controversy and flame-wars. One only has to look at what other so-called musical artists are producing to realise that _The_Sensual_World_ is a major work of art in the pop world (using that term to include all popular music not just chart/MOR/AOR or whatever). Pro rata, given the short length of time the album has been available, I have listened to _The_Sensual_World_ more than any of Kate's other albums and in fact I have not even felt the need to go back to her other albums during this time (even though they remain great musical masterpieces) as there is still so much more to appreciate on _The_Sensual_World_. As for the criticisms, such as those mentioned above; for a start, I cannot see what the time gap between albums has to do with the quality of the music. Four days or four years who cares - some people work at different speeds: music does not come off a conveyer belt - unless you happen to be Stock, Aitken and Waterman. It is an irrelevance, and is no criterion on which to base a criticism. Particularly galling are those postings which make comments comparing _The_Sensual_World_ to _Hounds_of_Love_ or some other previous album. Such rantings are inane and quite inappropriate to an artist like Kate Bush. Like a great artist in any medium each work of art should be appreciated on its own merits. It would have been relatively simple (and no doubt profitable) for Kate to put out _Hounds_of_Love_ - Part 2. But who the hell *really* wants that. If you like _Hounds_of_Love_ or _The_Dreaming_ or whatever that's great, so do I. But if that is all you want then go play the damn things in a continuous loop. They had a style and feel that was their own but surely one should be willing to open one's mind to new challenges. One would not expect a painter having produced a critical masterpiece to spend the remainder of their career churning out endless copies in the same style. We've already been lucky enough to have albums like _Hounds_of_Love_ and _The_Dreaming_ to listen to and now Kate has given us something new and different. There are thousands of artists who make album after album where you can put one on and not be able to tell it apart from any of their others. In fact, in many cases it is hard to tell individual tracks apart. Kate has produced six very different (and in the case of the last three incredibly different) albums. It is possible to put each one on and enjoy a totally unique listening pleasure and then follow it with another, equally enjoyable, but totally contrasting. We should all be celebrating this gift. Now as to the claim that somehow _The_Sensual_World_ is an "inferior album" or is "not the Kate we know and love" (who is it - Phil Collins in a wig?). Perhaps those people who make such ill-considered claims should ask themselves whether they have really listened to this album without any preconceived ideas and prejudices - and then go back and listen with an open mind. I will come clean and admit that when I first heard the pre-release tape I harboured some of the doubts which are presently filling Love-hounds bandwidth. Then I got the CD and I knew that I should have had greater faith. The full revelation came when I listened to the CD with headphones in the dark - totally relaxed and absolutely no external distractions. Then the whole essence of the album suddenly seemed to be revealed and the myriad of subtle nuances on each fantastic track began to crystalise. Sounds crass? Try it before you flame. Listening like that it becomes clear why Kate has been saying that this is her most personal album. Perhaps that is why some people have been saying that certain lyrics are embarrassing or make them cringe. They clearly hit too close to the bone. For instance, is anyone prepared to honestly say that there are not people who are unable to handle human relationships and so turn to their computer for solace? Some members of this group possibly? Some of the simplest things in life are the hardest to handle. Some of the lyrics taken alone may not affect you but taken in the context of the album and mixed with such beautiful music they move me to tears. I don't know if that makes me feminine or lacking in machismo (I can imagine some people already preparing to type wimp in reply to this) but I can live with that, as long as I still enjoy Kate's music. It also amazes me that apparently intelligent people on this list have written things like "if I could improve the flow a little bit" - in between cutting up and re-arranging books no doubt! There *is* a "wholeness" to this album that comes from repeated plays and allowing the emotions in the songs to come through. It is these emotions that link all the songs on the album, though narratively dispersed, and entwine the receptive listener. So in one sense it would not destroy the flow whatever order the songs were in because the links would still be there, but quite possibly once the order was changed then there would be a loss in other senses. However, since I have no intention of veering from the path Kate has laid out on the album, I will leave that for those who do not doubt the propriety of such actions. Perhaps it is scientists who have been posting comments about changing the order - never happy unless cutting things up and experimenting :-) I do not *know* if The Sensual World is perfect but I *think* it is. Enjoy the album. Neil P.S. The promised transcript of the interview in CD Review and the remaining bits from International Musician will not appear for some time as I am off for a week (no, it's not to avoid the flames!). If anyone else wants to type them in in the meantime, then please do.
n8344141@UNICORN.WWU.EDU (paul carpentier) (12/11/89)
I haven't made any statement about _The_Sensual_World_ yet, other than the times I admit I want to hear it (I don't own a CD player), for one main reason. It tooks me 6 months of repeated listenings before I stopped absolutely hating _The_Dreaming_ and then nearly another 4 months before I realized it was, in fact 8), the greatest album ever made. I assume there is more to TSW than my immediate, or even considered, reaction. Paul M Carpentier lover of the music created by Kate
jeff@sqa.dsg.ti.COM (jeff abbott (TB02)) (03/27/91)
Wow! When I asked a week ago about how people found Kate, I didn't know the group would see so many great responses! It's been really interesting to see how folks discovered Kate's music. Now on to other matters: In article <1991Mar251445503.22374@wam.umd.edu> katsouro@WAM.UMD.EDU (Mark Steven Katsouros) writes: >WSDTM is what gives The Sensual World sensuality! I thinK a re-evaluaTion is >in order... What? :-) I'm afraid I think that "The Sensual World" is what gives _The Sensual World_ its sensuality! (Good Lord, I used sensual three times in one sentence!) Nothing against, "Walk Straight Down the Middle", it's a great song. But "The Sensual World", IMHO, sets the entire mood for the rest of the album. Of course, I'm biased because of an incident involving "The Sensual World" played after a long day of swimming, an ex-girlfriend, and an ice cube. . . .gulp. Jeff -- Jeff Abbott Texas Instruments, Inc. 512-250-4323 Internet Jeff.Abbott@hub.dsg.ti.com TI MSG %TB02@hub.dsg.ti.com