jeff@sqa.dsg.ti.COM (jeff abbott (TB02)) (03/22/91)
I have a terrible confession to make to Kate Bush fans: I don't like one of her albums. There, I said it. I'm free! :-). Seriously, I really enjoy _HoL_, TKI, TWS, The Dreaming, and The Sensual World, but try as I might, I haven't been able to like Lionheart. The music and Kate's verbal acrobatics just leave me flat. We've had some pseudo-flaming over what is Kate's best album; what about her worst? Lionheart gets my vote, hands down. Comments? Later, Jeff -- Jeff Abbott Texas Instruments, Inc. 512-250-4323 Internet Jeff.Abbott@hub.dsg.ti.com TI MSG %TB02@hub.dsg.ti.com
rjc@cstr.ed.ac.UK (Richard Caley) (03/25/91)
In article <9103211645.AA05527@sqa.dsg.ti.com>, jeff abbott (TB02) (ja) writes: ja> We've had some pseudo-flaming over what is Kate's best album; ja> what about her worst? Lionheart gets my vote, hands down. ja> Comments? But, but, but, ... Kashka! Oh England my Lionheart! I think if I had to pick one which I would lose fewest body parts before parting with it would have to be The Sensual World. But only because it, unlike the others, has a couple of weak songs (Walk Straight Down the Middle and Deeper Understanding). But the very idea strikes me as horrific... I shall have to play The Dreaming to recover. -- rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk _O_ |<
katsouro@WAM.UMD.EDU (Mark Steven Katsouros) (03/25/91)
In article <RJC.91Mar25000924@brodie.cstr.ed.ac.uk> rjc@cstr.ed.ac.UK (Richard Caley) writes: >I think if I had to pick one which I would lose fewest body parts >before parting with it would have to be The Sensual World. But only >because it, unlike the others, has a couple of weak songs (Walk >Straight Down the Middle and Deeper Understanding). What? These are two of my favorites! (Who am I kidding; all of KaTe's songs are my favorites.) Seriously, you must at least be able to appreciate DU given that you are using a computer to access this wealth of Kate sTuff! And, geez, WSDTM is what gives The Sensual World sensuality! I thinK a re-evaluaTion is in order... -- :[]: Mark Steven Katsouros, Manager, Automation || University of Maryland, Department of Physical Plant ( ) Building 003, Room 0300, College Park, MD 20742 (301) 405-3212 (__) mkatsour@umdacc.umd.edu, katsouro@wam.umd.edu, mk63@umail.umd.edu
THOMASDL@UIUCVMD (03/27/91)
Ok...I mentioned earlier that I didn't really like Lionheart. And it seems a lot of other people on this list agree. But there are also a bunch who strongly disagree. I'd like to hear from this latter group. What do you like about LH? Maybe I should go back and listen to it again...What do you suggest I listen to/pay attention to? Why do you like this album? I mean...how can it possibly compare to TD and HoL?! Humbly submitted, David T.
jburka@silver.ucs.indiana.EDU (Jeff Burka) (03/27/91)
David T asks: >What do you >like about LH? Maybe I should go back and listen to it again...What do >you suggest I listen to/pay attention to? "Oh England My Lionheart" is without a doubt my favorite song on this album, and one of my favorite KaTe songs to boot. "Kashka From Baghdad" is also great (it was in my .sig for a while), as well as "In Search of Peter Pan," which I'd call a classic. "She tells me I'm too sensitive/She makes me sad." <sigh> >Why do you like this album? Same reason I like *all* of KaTe's music: daring originality with incredible music, vocals, and overall presence that I refuse to define (because I can't... but She Really Is.) >I mean...how can it possibly compare to TD and HoL?! Most of the 200+ albums I own don't compare to TD or HoL. Does this mean I shouldn't like them? I'm not allowed to listen to anything else? The point is that _Lionheart_ doesn't *need* to compare to TD or HoL. It just needs to be good. And if nothing else, you should be interested in it simply as part of the artistic progression and maturing process that allowed KaTe to realize her later projects. And are you telling me that you really can't hear any glimmer of what would later become _The Dreaming_ in songs like "Coffee Homeground"? Jeff (who never thought he'd see the day when he staunchly defended _Lionheart_) -- |Jeffrey C. Burka |"I've lost my way through this world of | |jburka@silver.ucs.indiana.edu | profanities/I thrive on the wind and | |jburka@amber.ucs.indiana.edu | the rain and the cold." --Happy Rhodes|
hargieka@CLUTX.CLARKSON.EDU (k.a.hargie) (03/27/91)
What do I like about Lionheart?????? Well I wouldn't trade Coffee Homeground for anything.....I love it! It's humorous, delectably haughty and naughty, and when im in an evil mood nothing compares. On other notes Oh England is a marvelous song as is Hammer Horror and Kashka. Also In the Warm Room while being a relatively simple song for KaTe at least is wonderful ( ok so I like this song for sentimental reasons primarily but still!). Now that I think about it there isn't one song on this album that I don't NOT like. I think (maybe??) that one reason that people may not appreciate this album as much is because it is rather simple. But, in it's simplicity there are slips and hitches that make this album good. Another thing that people may find disturbing is that this album has a lot of raw emotion. KaTe goes from a very powerful hatred, to the erotic, to the humorous, and every other emotion in between. Yes, TD and HOL are excellent no doubt, but Lionheart has it's own postive qualities. How many other artists would write a song like Kashka? Kirstin "Harg" "And you won't get me in a hole to rot. put me in a six foot plot With your hemlock on the rocks."
rjc@cstr.ed.ac.UK (Richard Caley) (03/27/91)
In article <1991Mar25.145503.22374@wam.umd.edu>, Mark Steven Katsouros (msk) writes:
rjc> I think if I had to pick one which I would lose fewest body parts
rjc> before parting with it would have to be The Sensual World. But only
rjc> because it, unlike the others, has a couple of weak songs (Walk
rjc> Straight Down the Middle and Deeper Understanding).
msk> What? These are two of my favorites! (Who am I kidding; all of
msk> KaTe's songs are my favorites.) Seriously, you must at least be
msk> able to appreciate DU given that you are using a computer to
msk> access this wealth of Kate sTuff! And, geez, WSDTM is what gives
msk> The Sensual World sensuality! I thinK a re-evaluaTion is in
msk> order...
Actually I really like the fade out on WSDTM, but the rest does
nothing for me. I find the Sensuality in TSW in the title track and
The Fog.
As for DU, maybe it just reminds me of work too much (I work on speech
synthesis).
--
rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk And through the wire we send our tailor made speeches.mauser@WAM.UMD.EDU (Rich Chandler) (03/28/91)
Quick question: Who is the "Cripen"(Crippen?) referred to in Coffee Homeground?
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POLITICALLY CORRECT: A phrase used to limit people's freedom of thought
c.f. Moral Majority.
"Ride a motorcycle. Save Gas, Oil, Rubber, Steel, Aluminum, Parking Spaces,
The Environment, and Money. Plus, you get to wear all the leather you want!" Rich Chandler, DoD #296turney@cs.cornell.EDU (Jenn Turney) (03/28/91)
Rich Chandler asks: Who is the "Cripen"(Crippen?) referred to in Coffee Homeground? Well, while I can't give an answer with certainty, sitting here at my terminal I discover a card catalog listing for a book entitled _The Trial of Hawley Harvey Crippen_, from the series "Notable British trials", along with the note "Dr. Crippen was tried in 1910, for the murder of his wife, Cora Crippen." Must have been some fantastic trial, as the book is over 200 pages long, with even a few pictures. Perhaps he poisoned her! Unfortunately, that's as far as I can get from here; this listing is from the UC system catalog and I'm in New York. But it is a start, and a rather promising one. Anyone care to follow up? It would probably help further searchers to know that the name of the book's editor is Filson Young. There are copies of the book at UCLA, UC Irvine, UC Berkeley, UC Davis, UCSF, and Hastings. "Have the walls got ears here?" Jenn -- ________ | | turney@svax.cs.cornell.edu | Let us go singing as far as we go: | | | Dept. of Computer Science | the road will be less tedious. \_| | Cornell University | -- Virgil