[rec.music.gaffa] "Not This Time"/over and out

PMANCHESTER@ccmail.sunysb.EDU (Peter Byrne Manchester) (04/30/91)

       It was great to hear from Vickie Sunday (April 28), who has been in 
some danger of dwindling to a legend while she and Chris don't have regular 
network access.  As always, her account of her take on "Not This Time" is an 
important contribution, and I appreciate the help.  I'm aware that this is not 
everybody's favorite song, but I'll admit to feeling some vindication in 
discovering that she has taken it seriously too.

       It is sound method to test one's version of a lyric against an 
interpretation of the song, and in general I find hers successful.  

>IMHO, it's a song about a battered woman who can't seem to break
>away from the husband/lover (?) who's treating her so badly. She
>finally comes to a decision that she must make the break to save
>herself.

       I feel it's too strong to take the person in the lyric to be a battered 
woman (or even necessarily a woman), but certainly the song addresses a 
conflicted love and the difficulty of extricating oneself from it.  I don't 
think the "fear you" needs to be taken as physical fear; for me it is more 
evocative if it is about the power of a love that has become obsessive or non-
reciprocal to be crushing or stifling for oneself.

       Whatever the interpretation, Vickie's efforts with the song have put us 
a position to decide on the authentic lyrics as sung.  I continue to think 
that has importance beyond this particular instance.  So:  to be done with 
this one, first I write the three versions in circulation, with judgments 
about their differences; then I write the version those judgments suggest.  I 
give them parallel formats for comparison.  In the few places where the 
evidence is not yet clear to my own ears, I adopt a two-out-of-three prevails 
rule.

<Vickie's version>       <KBCOMPLETE's version>    <My version, recent post>
NOT THIS TIME            NOT THIS TIME             NOT THIS TIME
Kate Bush                Kate Bush                 Kate Bush
                                                   
Oh with a mind that      Oh with a mind that       Oh with the mind that   
  renders everything       renders everything        renders everything   
  (in)sensitive            insensitive               sensitive
What chance do I have    What chance do I have     What chance do I have to 
  here?                    here -                    be here

       It's "a" mind; 'with a' and 'with the' are very close, but 'a' 
is more natural.  It's also "do I have here"; I was misled by the fact 
that the here is pronounced almost as two syllables--hee-ere.  As to 
sensitive/insensitive, it's up for grabs.  KBCOMPLETE prints sensitive 
in the lyrics section, insensitive in the music; Vickie can't call it, 
but points out it works with her interpretation either way.  I am going 
to stay with my version, attributing it to the singer, not the other.  
At most there is a continuation of the glottal 'ng' of 'everything', 
not a new syllable.

Put an end, put an end   Put an end Put an end     Put an end, put an end
Put an end to every dreamPut an end to every dream Put an end to every dream
When you're near I fear  When you're near - I fear When you're near I feel  
  you                      you                       you
And I forget myself      And I forget myself       And I forget myself

       OK, two to one in favor of 'fear', and I'll go with it.  But 
only because it is more clear in the next stanza, and consistency is to 
be expected.  I still can't stop hearing 'feel' here.

                                                   
Not this time baby       But not this time baby    Not this time baby
Not this time            Not this time             Not this time
Not this time baby       Not this time baby        Not this time baby
                         Not this time             

       The last reprise of "Not this time" is backup vocals, not lead.

                                                   
I dunno why I give in butI don't know why I give inI dunno why I give in but 
  I do every time          but I do every time       I do every time
And here I am a'wonderingAnd here I am wondering   And here I am a'wondering 
  why I did it again       why I did it again        why I'm doing it again

       It isn't "I did it again"; it's "I'm doing it again."

Toor-ee-ah Toor-ee-oh    Toor-ee-ah Toor-ee-oh     Toor-ee-ah Toor-ee-oh
Toor-ee-ah Toor-ee-oh    Toor-ee-ah Toor-ee-oh     Toor-ee-ah Toor-ee-oh
Toor-ee-ohhhhh must I sayThat's what I say         That's what I say
To keep me going, to keepIt keeps me going and it  To keep me going and to  
  the shit away            keeps the ship away       keep the shit away

       Vickie is right that there is a final "toor-ee-oh," but then 
it's "that's what I say," with the 'what I say' thrown by very quickly. 
Vickie and I agree against KBCONPLETE that it's "TO keep," etc., but 
she misses the "and," which is very distinct.

I don't know what it is  I don't know what it is   I don't know what it is
Every time you're near   But every time you're nearEvery time you're near
I fear you               I fear you                I feel you
And I forget myself      And I forget myself       And I forget myself
                                                   
No, not this time baby   No not this time baby     No, not this time baby
Not this time you won't  Not this time you won't   Not this time out
Not this time            Not this time darling     Not this time
Not this time darling                              Not this time

       Vickie is alone in being right on this passage.  The "darling" 
is a stunning growling howl, easy to miss as a word.

                                                   
C'mon, we all sing       C'mon we all sing         C'mon, we all sing
                                                   
(Refrain)                (Refrain)                 (Refrain


       Integrating the results, what follows strikes me as presentable for a 
definitive version of the lyrics for this song:

.............................................................................
<Love-Hounds version:  thanks to |>oug Alan, Vickie Mapes, Andrew Marvick, Ed 
Suranyi, Larry DeLuca>
.............................................................................

NOT THIS TIME
Kate Bush

Oh with a mind that renders everything sensitive
What chance do I have here
Put an end, put an end
Put an end to every dream
When you're near I fear you
And I forget myself

Not this time baby
Not this time
Not this time baby

I dunno why I give in but I do every time
And here I am a'wondering why I'm doing it again
Toor-ee-ah Toor-ee-oh
Toor-ee-ah Toor-ee-oh
Toor-ee-oh that's what I say
To keep me going and to keep the shit away
I don't know what it is
Every time you're near
I fear you
And I forget myself

No, not this time baby
Not this time out
Not this time
Not this time darling

C'mon, we all sing

(Refrain)

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                                                            Peter Manchester
"C'mon, we all sing!"                               pmanches@sbccmail.bitnet
                                               pmanchester@ccmail.sunysb.edu