[net.lan] Ethernet Hardware Pricing

jalsop@aesat.UUCP (John Alsop) (02/18/85)

We have a number of Multibus based Unix systems using the 3COM 3C400
controller, and plan to add some additional units. Can anyone provide
information on possible sources for lower cost components?

Specific needs are:

	Ethernet transceivers (must work with 3COM board)
	Ethernet cable
	Transceiver cable

For comparison, 3COM's prices are $450, $7/meter, and $100, for the above
items.

Thanks in advance,

John Alsop @ AES Data Inc.
{allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!aesat!jalsop

rpw3@redwood.UUCP (Rob Warnock) (02/19/85)

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| Can anyone provide information on possible sources for lower cost components?
| Specific needs are:
| 	Ethernet transceivers (must work with 3COM board)
| 	Ethernet cable
| 	Transceiver cable
| For comparison, 3COM's prices are $450, $7/meter, and $100, for the above
| items. 
| John Alsop @ AES Data Inc.  | {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!aesat!jalsop
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For comparison only (I have no connection with them), TCL's prices respectively
are $232.80, $19.95 + $4.10/meter, and $40-100 (depending on length and whether
it's Teflon). These are US$ quantity one prices, F.O.B. TCL.
[Address: TCL Inc., 41829 Albrae St., Fremont CA 94538, (415)657-3800.]

These are the "stinger" or "vampire" type transceivers, with a spring-loaded
"energy" stinger.  You will have to specify whether you want version 1.0 or
2.0 transceivers, and "heartbeat" or not (I don't know which the 3Com board
needs, but TCL will know).

p.s. They also make a multi-port transceiver multiplexer (like a DEC DELNI)
that goes for $442 + $100/port (i.e. $1242 for 8 ports). They can be stacked
two deep, or a maximum of 64 ports per actual Ethernet transceiver (or can be
used stand-alone, without a coax).  I don't know how that compares to the DELNI.


Rob Warnock
Systems Architecture Consultant

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skip@gatech.UUCP (Skip Addison) (02/23/85)

As has been mentioned by someone else, TCL transceivers are reaonably priced
at about $230 each or ~$150 each for the multiport variety.  When I buy cable,
I usually buy from my local cable supplier like Anixter.  Belden has been one
of the leading manufacturers of Ethernet, but they recently put a quality
hold on the coax because the innermost foil would bond with the dielectric,
making it difficult to remove for transceiver installation.  Berktec and others
also make the coax.  I usually pay 70 to 80 cents a foot for the stuff in 
1000 foot rolls.

We have about 150 transceivers installed on many networks with several miles
of Ethernet coax;  I tend to shop around.

I would NEVER buy one of the transceivers that requires cutting the cable for
installation.  We never have any problems with the vampire taps.


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