jondr@sco.COM ("Jonathan S. Drukman") (04/30/91)
In article <957778D360000139@sc.intel.com> AGOUGH%FAB6@SC.INTEL.COM (Andy Gough, x4-2906, pager 420-2284, CH2-59) writes: >I wonder how bootleggers can have CDs made. I mean, it takes a lot of >capital to build and equip a CD plant--maybe CD manufactures take small >special orders and don't investigate exactly what music they're reproducing. Bootleggers do NOT build their own CD plants. Nor did they ever build their own record pressing facilities back when vinyl was all the rage. If you really want your very own 80-minute compilation of Kate on one CD, and are willing to shell out big bucks for it, do the following: Rent a DAT machine, or (if you want to avoid the conversion fees) a Sony U-Matic digital tape deck. Play the Kate songs you want onto your DAT or U-Matic. Note the SMPTE indexes (hour, minute, second and frame) at which the tracks start and end. Prepare some camera ready copy. You probably won't want to shell out for more than a generic four-panel thing unless you've got MAJOR dollars to produce a real booklet with. On the other hand, you could just go for a cardboard sleeve and skip the jewel box entirely. I don't know what the savings are, so I'll assume you went for the jewel box option throughout this article. Go to a CD pressing plant. If you made a DAT master, tell them you want it converted to Sony format. They might do the SMPTE indexing for you, but I don't know... Give them your artwork and $3000. Come back in a week. You'll have 1000 copies of your new masterpiece waiting. Do not sell them, that's terribly illegal. You could give them to your friends for a small donation though. You *DO* have 1000 friends, right? (In other words, you can get 1000 CDs made for about $3 each. I don't know of any places that will press less than 1000 at a time, but there may be places which will charge less than $3 per disc. There are, of course, discounts for larger orders, which makes the $15 per disc price of the latest Top 40 swill particularly odious, and the $22 per disc price of the cool imports unbelievably nauseating.) -- jon drukman jondr@sco.com always note the sequencer: sco docland wage slave uunet!sco!jondr this will never let us down
datta@vacs.uwp.EDU (David Datta) (04/30/91)
In article <16480@scorn.sco.COM> "Jonathan S. Drukman" <fscott!jondr@uunet.UU.NET> writes:
(HI JON!!!)
Jon describes how to make 1000 CDs, here is how to make ONE
If you want to avoid costs, record an RDAT digital cassette at 44.1 kHz.
Place start IDs at the beginning of each track
send it to someone with a Gotham Audio SPOT 90 CD-R recording system
(or similar).
a quote from United Audio Corporation:
Record CD from client's master tape (R-DAT)
1 copy $195
2-9 copies $160 each
10-20 copies $120 each
(from the same master tape)
if you supply them with a 48kHz R-DAT, Reel to Reel or PCM-F1
master tape, the R-DAT costs $12 for the sub master.
If they add the start IDs, $35 more
if they edit, $50/hr
Based on other quotes from various places, this is about average.
To do 1000 discs, it costs about $2500 for the pressing with full
color 4 page books.
--
-Dave datta@vacs.uwp.wisc.edu. The dune lizard lifts it's feet so they
don't burn. This is it's life. Running in place and eating insects.
What is the point? Why bother? Why not move someplace cooler?jondr@sco.COM ("Jonathan S. Drukman") (05/01/91)
In article <11571@uwm.edu> datta@vacs.uwp.edu (David Datta) writes: >(HI JON!!!) (HI DAVE!!!) >Jon describes how to make 1000 CDs, here is how to make ONE Excellent information there. I'm rather puzzled at why anybody would spend $2400 on 20 discs when they can get 1000 for $2500. >If you want to avoid costs, record an RDAT digital cassette at 44.1 kHz. Is this generally the accepted standard now? I thought the Sony PCM-F1 format was the preferred one. -- jon drukman jondr@sco.com always note the sequencer: sco docland wage slave uunet!sco!jondr this will never let us down
datta@vacs.uwp.EDU (David Datta) (05/01/91)
In article <16520@scorn.sco.COM> "Jonathan S. Drukman" <fscott!jondr@uunet.UU.NET> writes: >In article <11571@uwm.edu> datta@vacs.uwp.edu (David Datta) writes: >>If you want to avoid costs, record an RDAT digital cassette at 44.1 kHz. >Is this generally the accepted standard now? I thought the Sony >PCM-F1 format was the preferred one. The PCM-F1 format is still preferred by anyone who doesn't have the new 1-shot disc recorders. The new machine pretty much automatically takes an RDAT and builds the TOC on the fly then makes the single disc. This disc can be used to make the actual master for mass duplication. These machines are relatively new, I think they didn't start coming out until the end of last year and the prices have only gotten low enough for smaller studios to start buying them. -- -Dave datta@vacs.uwp.edu. The dune lizard lifts it's feet so they don't burn. This is it's life. Running in place and eating insects. What is the point? Why bother? Why not move someplace cooler?