[net.lan] Looking for PC hardware information.

jack@boring.UUCP (05/01/85)

We are looking for information/pointers to information
on the following items :
- Ethernet interfaces for IBM-PC.
- (Multiple) RS-232 interfaces.

Please send replies by mail (I don't read these newsgroups
regularly), and I'll summarize for the net.

-- 
	Jack Jansen, {decvax|philabs|seismo}!mcvax!jack
	The shell is my oyster.

ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (05/02/85)

> We are looking for information/pointers to information
> on the following items :
> - Ethernet interfaces for IBM-PC.

The only one I'm aware of is, unfortuantely, the 3-COM board.

-Ron

medin@ucbvax.ARPA (Milo Medin) (05/05/85)

> > We are looking for information/pointers to information
> > on the following items :
> > - Ethernet interfaces for IBM-PC.
> 
> The only one I'm aware of is, unfortuantely, the 3-COM board.
> 
> -Ron

Interlan makes a much better one, but I'm not sure what kind of software
support it has.

						Milo

scarter@topaz.ARPA (Stephen Carter) (05/06/85)

In article <6769@ucbvax.ARPA> medin@ucbvax.ARPA (Milo Medin) writes:
>> > We are looking for information/pointers to information
>> > on the following items :
>> > - Ethernet interfaces for IBM-PC.
>> 
>> The only one I'm aware of is, unfortuantely, the 3-COM board.
>> 
>> -Ron
>
>Interlan makes a much better one, but I'm not sure what kind of software
>support it has.
>
>						Milo

Interlan supports the XNS protocols, and the TCP/IP code from MIT (for the
3-com board) is being worked on.  I believe that Interlan will distribute
this when completed.   Besides being a better board, it is also cheaper
since the "thin Ethernet"  hardware is not included on the board as with the
3-com version.

SCarter

jmg@cernvax.UUCP (jmg) (05/06/85)

In article <6405@boring.UUCP> jack@mcvax.UUCP (Jack Jansen) writes:
>
>We are looking for information/pointers to information
>on the following items :
>- Ethernet interfaces for IBM-PC.

BICC Data Networks Ltd., in England, make a PC board for Ethernet.
Is called Type 4110 Controller, conforms to IEEE 802.3, on-board
processor and memory-mapped 16K message buffer, firmware for physical,
media access and logical link layers, on-board diagnostics for hardware
and network, various disk-based software.
Address is 1 Frogmore Road, Hemel Hempstead, Herts HP3 9RJ.
Telephone (0442) 218383, telex 628811

BICC is a large company (stands for British Insulated Callenders
Cables, I think). I do not, and have never, worked for them: I am
just trying to promote European products!

pml@usl.UUCP (Patrick Landry) (05/07/85)

Micom is also making a board for the PC now. I don't have
the flyer in front of me but if anyone is interested drop me
a note and I'll dig it out.
                     ---pat---
                                      Patrick Landry
ut-sally \                            University of Southwestern Louisiana
          !usl!pml
  akgua  /                            LandryPM%usl@csnet-relay.ARPA

brad@kontron.UUCP (Brad Yearwood) (05/07/85)

> > We are looking for information/pointers to information
> > on the following items :
> > - Ethernet interfaces for IBM-PC.
> 
> The only one I'm aware of is, unfortuantely, the 3-COM board.
> 
> -Ron

Interlan also has (supposedly, I haven't yet received detailed info.)
a PC Ethernet interface.  They can be contacted at (617) 263-9929.

3com is replacing the previous board with an equvalent one that fits in
a half-slot.  They also have announced one with an Intel 186 and 586,
and 128 or 256K of local RAM on board.  They have no software for the
smart board yet, but are offering it to those who wish to develop their
own software.

jmg@cernvax.UUCP (jmg) (05/07/85)

In article <1888@topaz.ARPA> scarter@topaz.UUCP (Stephen Carter) writes:
>In article <6769@ucbvax.ARPA> medin@ucbvax.ARPA (Milo Medin) writes:
>>> > We are looking for information/pointers to information
>>> > on the following items :
>>> > - Ethernet interfaces for IBM-PC.
>>> 
>>> The only one I'm aware of is, unfortuantely, the 3-COM board.
>>> 
>>> -Ron
>>
>>Interlan makes a much better one, but I'm not sure what kind of software
>>support it has.
>>
>>						Milo
>
>Interlan supports the XNS protocols, and the TCP/IP code from MIT (for the
>3-com board) is being worked on.  I believe that Interlan will distribute
>this when completed.   Besides being a better board, it is also cheaper
>since the "thin Ethernet"  hardware is not included on the board as with the
>3-com version.
>
>SCarter

The guy might want the "thin Ethernet" hardware: we certainly do, since
transceivers and transceiver cables cost!
In Britain, BICC (a large cables company) has formed a unit called BICC
Data Networks Limited. One of their products is an Ethernet PC board.
Conforms to IEEE 802.1, 802.2 (both versions of LLC!) and 802.3. On-board
transceiver, processor, memory-mapped 16K message buffer, diagnostics et
j'en passe (that's French, meaning there are more things but I am stopping).
BTW, another product is an 8-way fan-out unit, like a DELNI. Since I hear
lots of stories about DELNIs..............

mjb@iris.UUCP (Mike Braca) (05/08/85)

>> We are looking for information/pointers to information
>> on the following items :
>> - Ethernet interfaces for IBM-PC.
>
>The only one I'm aware of is, unfortuantely, the 3-COM board.
>

Very fortunately, Ungermann-Bass has come up with an IBM-PC ethernet
board with 16K worth of RAM buffers (12K in, 4K out). This thing runs
rings around the 3com board. It's called a P-NIC (pronounced "picnic")
and it's only available to OEMs currently.
................................................................
Mike Braca, Brown Univ/IRIS, "Home of the Scholar's Workstation"
 brunix!iris!mjb  ||  mjb%iris@Brown.CSNet  ||  MJB@IRIS.BITNET

mccallum@opus.UUCP (Doug McCallum) (05/11/85)

> Micom is also making a board for the PC now. I don't have
> the flyer in front of me but if anyone is interested drop me
> a note and I'll dig it out.
>                      ---pat---
>                                       Patrick Landry

The Micom board is most likely the same as the Interlan board.  Micom
recently acquired Interlan and the company is now known as Micom Interlan.


		Doug McCallum
		{allegra, ucbvax, ut-sally}!nbires!mccallum

skip@gatech.CSNET (Skip Addison) (05/12/85)

>  > We are looking for information/pointers to information
>  > on the following items :
>  > - Ethernet interfaces for IBM-PC.
>  
>  The only one I'm aware of is, unfortuantely, the 3-COM board.
>  
>  -Ron
>  
>  
I've looked pretty hard at some cards for IBM-PC.  In particular, I've
looked at the (old) 3-COM board, the InterLAN board, and Ungermann-Bass's
two boards.

The 3-COM board has a lot of third party support.  That's its main feature.
The InterLAN board is designed for OEMs and sophisticated end-users who
want to write their own software.  InterLAN provides the XNS protocols
through SPP, but no user or operating system interface.  Ungermann-Bass
makes two boards, one with an on-board 186 processor and one without.
The intelligent board is designed to go in a server, while the other board
is designed for low cost.  They come normally with XNS through SPP (but not
with much programmer support for same) and MS-NET file and print service
protocols.  U-B also has ported ISO and TCP-IP protocols to the boards, but
that's only available for OEMs.

Which board is better depends (naturally) on what you want to do with it.

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lsmith@ut-ngp.UUCP (lsmith) (05/13/85)

There's a hardware/software package for IBM PC's and clones called 10-net.
It runsEthernet protocols on a twisted pair making a much less expensive
installation. Has remote virtual disks, printers, mail, etc, at a cost
of $750 per machine. This is not an endorsement. I havn't used it,
but I'm interested.