[comp.protocols.iso.dev-environ] commercial ISODE and transport service bridges...

hughes@eds.com (11/22/89)

Hi,
Excuse my ignorance (new comer to the ISODE world) but I have a few questions
concerning ISODE that I hope someone out there can answer.  I am interested
in ISODE as a tool for enabling the interoperability of TCP and OSI networks
and for providing tools for TCP/OSI integration.

My first question is has anyone out there taken the ISODE concept and produced
a commercial implementation (or commercially available port)?  I seem to recall
just recently reading about such a thing in the trade rags but I can't find
the article again (which made me think about cleaning my desk before I gave it
up as an impossible task).  

My second question concerns the Transport Service bridge.  In the docs it says 
that the TSB is not included in the "openly available ISODE distribution",
however in Marshall Rose's new book he states that Julian Onion's TS-bridge
was donated to ISODE sometime in '89.  We're very interested in the potential
for a TS bridge providing TCP/OSI interoperability.  Is the TSB in the
ISODE-5.0?  Has anyone worked with it and what are the results, if any?
Any info on the TSB would be appreciated.

Finally, I have been trying to get ISODE to work on our Sun (4/260, OS4.0.3
running Sunlink 6.0 OSI) and have had limited success.  It compiles OK but
when I go to test it (isode-ets) I get all sorts of errors (mostly to do with
"connections being refused on this network connection").  Any one got some 
helpful hints?  Sun's OSI seems to work OK... I haven't gone much further 
though (i.e. haven't tried to get the ISODE FTAM running).  In a related
area would the FTAM/ftp gateway running on a Sun OSI/TCP dual stack host
really work as a gateway from a pure TCP environ to an ISODE environ (where
all of the services were running over Sunlink OSI for instance)? 

Anyways thanks for any help/info I can get. 

Bill Hughes
EDS/TSD/PME
750 Tower Dr
Troy, MI 48007
(313)265-7010
hughes@eds.com

"Excuse me! Excuse me! Neophyte coming through..."

mrose@CHEETAH.NYSER.NET (Marshall Rose) (11/24/89)

	My first question is has anyone out there taken the ISODE
	concept and produced a commercial implementation (or
	commercially available port)?  I seem to recall just recently
	reading about such a thing in the trade rags but I can't find
	the article again (which made me think about cleaning my desk before I
	gave it up as an impossible task).

There are a few unnamed companies which are planning to use the ISODE as
a part of their OSI product offerings.  It would be presumptious of me
to name them.

	My second question concerns the Transport Service bridge.  In
	the docs it says that the TSB is not included in the "openly
	available ISODE distribution", however in Marshall Rose's new
	book he states that Julian Onion's TS-bridge was donated to
	ISODE sometime in '89.  We're very interested in the potential
	for a TS bridge providing TCP/OSI interoperability.  Is the TSB
	in the ISODE-5.0?  Has anyone worked with it and what are the
	results, if any? Any info on the TSB would be appreciated.

ISODE 5.0 was distributed before *The Open Book* was published by
Prentice-hall.  In turn, *The Open Book* was published before the
upcoming 6.0 distribution.

The current ISODE beta has a TSB, and it will be included in the 6.0
distribution.  In fact, the documentation set for 6.0 will include a
wonderful new chapter called "The Transport Switch" which describes in
detail how to configure your environment to use the TSB, etc., with a
minimum of transparency.  This more or less corresponds to Sections 5.5
(Application Use of End-to-End Services) and 5.6 (Interworking
Revisited) of *The Open Book*.  

	Finally, I have been trying to get ISODE to work on our Sun
	(4/260, OS4.0.3 running Sunlink 6.0 OSI) and have had limited success.

ISODE 5.0 predates SunLink OSI 6.0.  However, ISODE 6.0 will work with
SunLink OSI 6.0.  A couple of SunLink OSI experts were kind enough to
test it out and provide patches.

/mtr