[net.lan] TCP/IP for VMS wanted

chriss@midas.UUCP (Chris Shirkoff) (05/17/85)

I am just getting started in the net implementation business, 
and am trying to get VMS and (4.2 BSD & System V) UN*X talking 
to each other.  

I require TCP/IP support on both ends, and *must* have vendor
support -- public domain code won't be acceptable to my management.
File transfer to/from VMS is a must;  mail and virtual terminal
connections would be nice, but not required.

DEC is trying to sell me Ultrix which now supports DECnet and UUCP,
but I'd rather stick with my current flavor of UN*X (BSD 4.2).

Any and all responses would be greatly appreciated.


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ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (05/20/85)

> I am just getting started in the net implementation business, 
> and am trying to get VMS and (4.2 BSD & System V) UN*X talking 
> to each other.  
> 
There are two VMS TCP/IP's that I know of.  The one is the DSI/Compion/Gould
ACCESS-T software, which we are running.  It sucks.  The other is the
Woolongong Group's TCP/IP which was taken from their UNIX under TCP product
and will run seperately.  It can't be any worse than the Compion.  It
seems to work passably, however, talking to Woolengong people convinces
me that they have no one there who really knows what's going on.

Of course, 4.2BSD comes speaking TCP/IP (pretty much) and there are a
couple of venders out now claiming TCP/IP in their version of System V.
Actually, AT&T has a contract to do TCP/IP for System V for the Army,
but they aren't compelled to do any work on it, and they are not.

-Ron

joe@fluke.UUCP (Joe Kelsey) (05/24/85)

> There are two VMS TCP/IP's that I know of.  The one is the DSI/Compion/Gould
> ACCESS-T software, which we are running.  It sucks.  The other is the

I agree - ACCESS sucks the big one.  Also, it's been "let's see who we
can palm this program off on this week" for the last three years.  First
it belonged to Compion.  When Gould bought them, they transferred ACCESS
to Flexcomm.  Then Gould Software (nee Compion) decided they wanted ACCESS
back last summer.  Now Gould just sold ACCESS to Internet...sigh.

I just ran across what looks like the most reasonably priced TCP/IP
for VMS - Network Research Corp.'s Fusion.  Fusion comes in either XNS
or TCP/IP flavors, and their documentation looks "real good".  If I had
to do it over again, I would probably go for Fusion (assuming I could
get a good demo of the software actually running on my hardware).

/Joe

rs@mirror.UUCP (05/29/85)

I also recommend Fusion.  They are very expensive, but their stuff
is good.  At my previous company we shipped them a "unix.o" and
cdevsw[] file, and they shipped us back a kernal with their stuff
in.  It ran right away.

Also, their general attitude is very professional, which is a nice
change from the way one usually gets Unix(tm) software... (:-)
	/rich $alz