[soc.feminism] Affirmitive Action

keith@pawl.rpi.edu (Keith D. Weiner) (09/28/89)

2 posts back, there was a post concerning affirmative action, and that
it was "good". Instead of arguing this assertion on "practical"
grounds, I will do so on philosophical grounds.

If one were to ask a group whether "we" should have discrimination,
the universal answer would be "no!". But if one were to ask the same
group whether people should be allowed to spend their own money as
they wish, and whether they should be free from the initiation of the
use of physical force by either other individuals, or the govt, you
would get some muttering, and then perhaps a hesitant "yes, but..."  I
would argue that the 2 questions are the same, merely variants. For a
person (man) who has the right to spend his money as he sees fit, and
who is a free man may elect to hire based on some standard which is
prejudiced. From an individual rights perspective, he has the right to
hire anyone he wished. Why? Because the money to be paid and the
company to be worked for, and the equipment to be worked with, etc.,
are all his. By right. There are 2 criteria for any law which will
attempt to stop this, and one problem. The criteria are: it must
INITIATE the use of physical force (ie. a gun) against someone who has
not used force; it also must be by its nature non-objective. Non
objective laws are capable of ex-post-facto "justice" because they may
be "reinterpreted". They are also frequently responsible for holding
people guilty until proven innocent. "What do you MEAN you dont
discriminate against women???? - you hired 50 people, and only _2_ are
women. They make up half the population, you ought to have hired at
least _40_ percent!" But how many women WANT to be coal miners? This
looks like a perfect opportunity for a vendetta, doesnt it? Ok, if
these are the "criteria" then what is the problem? The problem is that
this sort of thing does nothing to combat the attitude responsible for
bigotry. When you force some guy to hire people he does not want to,
then he will resent the law, and he will resent the people he had to
hire. And eventually, he can fire them. (maybe, you can hold him
guilty until he proves himself innocent, but eventually, he will find
something). If he cannot fire them, then he will make their job a
hassle. But my final observation is that freedom is the only system
under which people think - ie under which they will reject prejudice
for what it is: irrational.  And there is no govt which can legislate
against irrationality. They can only encourage it.