[soc.feminism] Libertarian Feminism

gcf@mydog.UUCP (Gordon Fitch) (04/09/91)

| gcf> The whole point of individualism is to discount the validity, if
| > not the effect, of that sort of categorization and the relations
| > that may go along with it. 

jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
|  __ Except that feminism arose to counter the treatement of women
|   _ as nonindividuals.  I grant that cultural feminism was into
|     categorization, but it's certainly not true of feminisim
|     _per_se_.

No, no.  "Being treated as an individual" is the mythic _reward_ which
bourgeois liberalism grants to those of sufficient status to be
entirely real persons.  The status is the real crux of the matter.
Women, the non-white, the young, the old, in short all who were not
middle-aged white males had lower status; it is to the affront of
lower status that feminism reacts, coming up with a great variety of
counter-strategies.

But persons of low status _can_ be treated as individuals.  For
instance, I treat my dogs as individuals, although I regard them as
having lower political status than I.  I could do the same with slaves
or clients.  A myth of individuality or peculiarism often serves to
keep a subordinate population in line, since it helps keep them from
assembling to pursue their interests in common.

The whole myth applies to those of high and low status alike; those of
higher status simply have a greater opportunity to intensify an
individuality which is already their most precious possession.

In order to reinvent feminism, feminists had to recognize not their
individualities -- existing society was all too ready to do that --
but their commonalities.  That's why consciousness- raising groups
were formed and slogans like "Sisterhood is Powerful!" emerged.  Once
successful to any degree, the movement fragmented, because different
women sought different goals.  The majority wanted to be like men with
respect to status; they form the reformist branch of feminism, and
indeed pursue the intensification of individuality which bourgeois
liberalism promises.  Others have pursued other goals, not all of them
individualist.

| > Therefore -- since the book contradicts expectation -- it seems
| > like it might be pretty interesting.
| ___
|  __ I'll lay even odds that it's just a marriage of libertarianism
|   _ and feminism, with libertarianism as the dominant partner.  If
|     you *really* want to contradict those expectations, check out
|     Alice Echol's _Daring_to_Be_Bad_ (radical feminism) and Emma
|     Goldman's stuff (anarcho-feminism).

But Echol and Goldman will write radically, and not very
individualistically, which I expect!  It is this marriage which seems
odd.  The libertarian individualist doesn't need (doesn't think she
needs) feminism or any other group movement.  Saying "feminist
libertarian" is like saying "black-liberationist libertarian."  The
adjectives seems superfluous, if not oxymoronic.

But we cannot proceed further in our critique without a text.  We are
like lions in the zoo, pacing about, waiting for the meat to be
thrown.