[soc.feminism] Feminists and The Draft

dgross@polyslo.calpoly.EDU (Dave Gross) (06/13/91)

According to jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer):
>    I suspect I'm better read on feminism than Hillel Gazit, and I
>can honestly report that I've not seen one feminist document that
>supports a male-only draft.

	Well, I don't know if these qualify as documents, but here are
some quotes I have from people I believe to be feminists, about men
and women in combat and/or the draft:

	Angela Davis (at a news conference for a couple of women who
	refused to serve in the military during the Persian Gulf
	war):  "I applaud their courageous stand.  In the women's
	movement, we are fighting for equality for women but that
	does not mean we seek equality in the right to kill other
	people."

	Stephanie Salter (feminist columnest for the S.F. Examiner):
	"[O]ver the millennia women's tendencies have not inspired
	them to become sanctioned killers.  This has been a good
	thing for the world; it is a more moral, God-like stance.
	But now [January 20, 1991], in the understandable but gravely
	mistaken notion that the right to be a sanctioned killer is
	nothing more than the right to better pay, improved status,
	and career advancement, women are in danger of sacrificing
	one of their most precious traits -- their nonviolence."

On the other hand, NOW came out in favor of an equal combat role for
women in the Persian Gulf war, while at the same time opposing that
war.  A very principled distinction, methinks.  "There is an
assumption that because men are the ones who are supposed to put their
lives on the line to defend this country, they have a right to set
policy," said Patricia Ireland, NOW's national vice president.

Then there was Mary Kenny of the London Daily Telegraph, who I include
here because what she said was amusing.  I can't say for sure whether
or not Kenny thinks of herself as a feminist:

	"Indeed, it seems to me that by sending women into the Gulf
	conflict as soldiers in the first place, we have betrayed one
	of the most elemental and civilizing ideas of Western, and
	Christian, culture -- the chivalric ideal that women and
	children should be protected by the more brutish male, that
	women should be respected as higher human beings, morally,
	than the common run of men."

And it's just as bad in the other paragraphs, when she talks about how
kids need their mothers more than they need their fathers, and that in
fact women are needed more by the next generation in toto.  The only
reason I suspect that she may think of herself as a feminist is
because she uses some feminist language at places in the essay --
talking about "the basic male chauvinist thinking" or about "Western
feminism [which] challenged the fundamental male chauvinism that is
part of the natural order" or about "a carefully controlled male
system" -- phrases that an antifeminist might avoid.

Then there's Linda Chavez, who also wrote a piece about how women
should not have to be in combat.  She ran for Congress, I believe, as
a Republican, so she's no traditional woman, but I can't vouch for her
feminist beliefs either.

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