[soc.religion.christian] Husbands and wives

mee@pacbell.com (Margrit E. Eade) (09/01/89)

   In regard to Peter Berghold's article on Husband as leader:
   
   There are two questions here:
   
   1.  Should there be a leader in a marriage?
   2.  If there should, should that leader be the husband?
   
   I cannot find a reason why there should be a leader in marriage.  As
   Peter says, each person has their strengths and weaknesses, and a
   marriage should be a partnership.  To me, partnership means equal
   participation in decision making.  Sometimes a decision can be reached
   by mutual consent, sometimes the decision rests with the person who is
   "best at" the subject of the decision.
   
   "Submission is the recognition of someone's authority in your life."
   Indeed it does apply in the business world.  Why does it apply in
   marriage?  What is "bad" about husbands and wives reaching decisions of
   mutual agreement by consensus, coming up with something they both can
   live with?
   
   Perhaps some concrete examples would enliven the discussion.  What are
   some situations in a marriage where the fact of there being a "leader"
   would make things work better?  In other words, what is the value of
   having one of the partners having authority over the other?
   
   In regards to the second question--if there should be a leader, why
   should that leader be the husband?
   
   I personally do not find the biblical authority on this convincing.
   The admonition for wives to obey husbands does not make me believe
   having wives obey husbands should be the rule in all marriages, any
   more than the admonition of slaves to obey masters makes me believe
   that it is OK for one human being to own another.  Jesus never spoke on
   the topic of whether wives should submit to husbands -- we only have
   St. Paul's opinion on the topic.
   
   I am curious whether anyone can advance an argument why (assuming that
   there should be a leader in marriage) the leader should be the husband.
   If there should be leader, surely it should be the person best suited
   to lead.  Using the business analogy, assume that you are a manager
   trying to decide who to promote to a position where the person will
   have authority over others.  The two candidates are a man and a woman.
   Past experience has shown that THAT woman is much better at managing
   people than THAT man.  Naturally you promote the woman.  Not BECAUSE
   she is a woman, not IN SPITE OF the fact that she is a woman.  The
   decision is based on her abilities in that situation.
   
   Is the ability to lead in a marriage linked to gender?  A
   physically-based propensity that can be proven by accepted scientific
   methods?  Or is the only reason why the leader should be the man the
   biblical passages?  If so, then by all means, let's bring back slavery.
   
   Peter says, "Wives: if you don't respect your husbands, why did you
   marry him?"  In my opinion, the husband must also repect the wife.
   "Husbands: if you don't respect your wife, why did you marry her?"
   And Peter says "Husbands tend to need to be respected and know that
   they are looked up to."  This is something only males need?  I would
   say, "Human beings need to be respected and know that they are looked
   up to."
   
   [Additional note: one of the reasons that monasticism has traditionally
   included OBEDIENCE as one of the vows is that it has been found that
   submitting to another person in a spiritual context CAN be fruitful for
   the Christian soul.  That is why it is good even for people who are not
   monks and nuns to have a spiritual advisor to whom they submit.  But
   there is no reason why that spiritual advisor SHOULD be male.]
   
   Margrit Eade
   Pacific Bell