davidbu@tekigm2.men.tek.com (David Buxton) (10/05/89)
The mosaic law is never equated with the eternal moral code which operated from the very beginning of human history. Although they were not written down until Mount Sinai, the Law of God was understood and honored by the earliest patriarchs. It is impossible for sin to exist where there is no law. The Bible teaches, "for where no law is, there is no transgression" (Rom. 4:15). Again we are told, "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4). This principle is amplified further by Paul's statement that "I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet" (Rom. 7:7). These verses nail down the truth that no sin can be imputed where the ten- commandment law is not in effect. God's statement to Cain about "sin lying at the door" (Gen. 4:7) was in reference to his killing Abel, a violation of one of those commandments. This is proof that the moral law was in effect at that early date. Later, Joseph revealed that he was aware of the binding claims of that same law. he said to Potiphar's wife, "how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God?" (Gen. 39:9). He knew adultery was sin. Abraham was commended by God in these words: "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws" (Gen. 26:5). It is very obvious that the law which Abraham faithfully obeyed was not the law of Moses, because that law was not given until 430 years later. And we have just established that the ten commandments existed before Abraham, condemning even Cain for murder. Neither is it possible for us to conceive that great, godly Abraham was not acquainted with the basic issues of right and wrong contained in the ten commandments. It is absolutely certain that another law was added 430 years later, and it was in addition to the one Abraham kept so diligently. "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect" (Gal 3:17). The context of this verse indicates that Paul is talking about the ceremonial law rather than the moral law of the ten commandments. In verse 10, he refers to the curses "which are written in the book of the law." We know this had to be the mosaic law because, as we have already noted, there are no curses recorded in the law written on stone. Can we find further confirmation that this later law was indeed the law of Moses? The answer rests in Gal. 3:19. "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions till the seed should come to whom the promise was made . . . " Here we have two significant facts set forth concerning the law which was added. We are told why it was given and also how long it would remain in effect. These two bits of information will be considered very carefully since they contain compelling evidence in the case. FIRST: WHY WAS IT GIVEN? The verse clearly states that it was "added because of transgressions." This is most revealing because we have just established that "where no law is, there is no transgression" (Rom. 4:15). One can't be guilty of transgressing a law which does not exist. In this case, one law obviously did exist; and it had been "transgressed," making it necessary to add another law 430 years after God's covenant with Abraham. And since it is recorded that "Abraham obeyed . . . my laws" (Gen. 26:5), we have to believe that that earlier law, which Abraham observed, was the ten commandments. Moses had not yet been born, and it could not have been his law. So what must we conclude from this evidence? The ten commandments had been transgressed, making it necessary to add the ceremonial law. Upon reflection, this makes a lot of sense. If a law is made forbidding murder, and it is broken, then another law would have to be enacted to prescribe the penalty or punishment for breaking that first law. We have already established that the ten commandments contained no curses (penalties) or judgments (punishments), but the mosiac law was characterized by those very things. SECOND: HOW LONG DID THIS "ADDED" LAW REMAIN IN EFFECT? The Scripture says , "Till the seed should come." There is no controversy over the identity of that seed. It is Christ. But do we have evidence that the law which was blotted out and nailed to the cross was indeed the law of Moses? Whichever law it was, it is designated as the "handwriting of ordinances." Nowhere are the ten commandments identified as ordinances. That term is applied to local legal codes which are very narrow and limited, such as "town ordinances" which extend only to the city limits. In comparison, the ten commandments are more like the constitution of the United States. I tinkered with Joe Crews' material a little bit. by Joe Crews Amazing Facts P.O. Box 680 Frederick, Md 21701
pgaughan@nmsu.edu (Patrick Gaughan) (10/08/89)
>The mosaic law is never equated with the eternal moral code which operated >from the very beginning of human history. Although they were not written >down until Mount Sinai, the Law of God was understood and honored by the >earliest patriarchs. True, but the eternal moral code was never equated to the Ten Commandments either. I agree that the patriarchs knew the commandments and laws of God from the very beginning, but that the law WAS the Ten Commandments is not self evident. For example, there is no reference of the patriarchs observing the sabbath before the law of Moses. Here is one reference to the passing of the old law that I have not seen used yet: "But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?" 2 Corinthians 3:7,8. He refers to the law written and engrave in stone. That seems like a very clear reference to the ten commandments and the rest of the law. In fact this verse is alludingecifically to the ten commandments since it is refering to the time when Moses' face shined so brightly that it had to be covered (Exodus 34:29-). I am not saying that the all of ten commandments are not to be observed. At least nine of them are repeated as principles of the new law. Observance of the sabbath is not. "Let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths" Patrick Gaughan (pgaughan@nmsu.edu)
daemon@garage.att.com (Joseph H. Buehler) (10/13/89)
It's a mistake to look at the 10 commandments as a purely arbitrary act of God's will. The principals behind the 10 commandments are eternal. They can't be any other way. It's called the natural law. Human beings should act according to right reason, in accordance with their nature. For example: God made us from nothing, and preserves us in existence from moment to moment. Therefore, we should show Him some respect: "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord Thy God in vain." All 10 are like that; there's some intrinsic undelying reason for the command, something underlying that must be, and cannot be any other way. What else could the law be? Thou shalt kill? Thou shalt occassionally insult thy father and thy mother?
lohr@wsqtb8.crd.ge.com (P. J. Lohr) (10/16/89)
I almost hate to jump into the fray, but someone has to come to the defense of those who agree with both sides of the arguement, and see the only disagreement as one of emphasis. I believe that the 10 commandments are both a binding moral code, separate from the ceremonial law given as part of the Mosaic covenant (which has been superseded in Christ), AND that we are not bound by any law other than that which is written on our heart. The reason I can say these seemingly contracdictory statements is that I believe that the moral code of the 10 commandments and the law written on our hearts (or DNA) are one in the same. The difference in how to treat the Sabbath "law" comes in how literally we take the written commandment. The key to the correct balance is in Matt. 5:21-22, 27-28 (and other places) where Jesus teaches us that in God's eyes, to lust (which the commandments don't mention) is actually no different than adultry and hatred, no different than murder. In this Jesus shows us that God is not so much concerned with physical acts as the attitudes of our heart. How this relates to the Sabbath is that we ARE commanded to set time apart in our week to rest, and seek and worship God. No one can disagree that this is also written on the hearts of all believers. However, based on Jesus's teachings I must believe that God is concerned that this is a desire of our hearts and not that we strickly adhere to a particular time schedule (Jewish Sabbath). Phil Lohr lohr@crd.ge.com uunet!crd.ge.com!lohr [hmmm.... Yes, we haven't heard that much from the middle ground. There are certainly two "pure" positions. One says that all of the specific commands of the Law still apply. The other says that "anything goes". As far as I can tell, almost no one in this group has taken either of those extreme positions. By and large the "legalists" manage to limit their observance to some portion of the Law, e.g. the 10 Commandments. And I don't think we've heard from any true "libertines". Even those who reject the Law's specific authority seem to recognize that there are moral principles that are constant, and that the Law is one embodiment of them. So we've been hearing from people who I would more or less characterize as "semi-legalists" and "semi-libertines". In fact I suspect that your position is more common than the "semi-libertine" position among those who worship on Sunday. Actually, I'm tempted to classify your position as "semi-legalist", and say that you simply draw the line between the moral and ceremonial Law differently than those who keep the Sabbath. A common exegesis is to say that the specific institution of worship on Saturday was part of the Jewish ceremonial law, and passes away together with circumcision, the kosher laws, etc. However the general principle of regular worship is part of the moral law, which is still binding. In general, those who adopt your position tend to use the term Sabbath to refer to Christian worship on Sunday, because they see it as carrying out the intent of the Sabbath law. Those who reject the Law generally also reject the use of the term Sabbath to refer to Christian worship, preferring "the Lord's Day". --clh]